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Post by newby on Sept 22, 2024 13:53:49 GMT
Where did the season go!
I suppose the perfect scenario would be for us to bat first and get 450 runs on the first day, while Middlesex also bat first and get skittled by Sussex for less than 250, job done.
In reality it's unlikely to be decided on day 1 but a good performance whether we are batting or fielding will set the tone and settle any nerves.
Same team perhaps if they are all available.
Looking at the weather for the week ahead the groundsman will have it all to do to prepare a pitch to orders.
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Post by newby on Sept 23, 2024 8:04:27 GMT
Shan Masood's team have progressed to the knock-out stages of their competition so I think we can disregard any nonsense talked about him possibly returning to play in this one.
Of course a win would be nice but we don't need to win this game so playing the extra batter would be sensible. We don't need a results pitch either so get that grass off. Pitch preparation of any kind looks difficult over the next couple of days.
Possible XI: Lyth, Bean, Wharton, Luxton, Bairstow, Tattersall, Hill, Bess, Thompson, Fisher, Coad.
Thursday's forecast looks gruesome at this distance.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 23, 2024 8:16:35 GMT
yep, clarity now over Masoods involvement - he is still needed for the Stallions on Wednesday.
So Luxton for Moriarty for me as the only change.
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Post by davemorton on Sept 23, 2024 13:41:32 GMT
We ought to play on the ODI pitch in the middle of the square. Minimal wear from just one day, with time to bring it back anyway, and I'm tired of us being treated like the Under 12s on our own ground, stuck on a pitch at the edge of the square.
The ODI pitch did offer to turn, a little, at least for those who spun it. Whether Bess and Moriarty come into this category, I'm not sure, but they will both appreciate a bit of bounce.
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Post by hensonsprman on Sept 23, 2024 13:52:25 GMT
Dave there were rumours last week that Chohan was going to play not Moriarty. That would be an interesting choice Moriarty was clearly Gibson and Goughs man but he has been poor in the second half of the season.
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Post by tykemania on Sept 23, 2024 14:56:16 GMT
I'd be inclined to replace Moriarty with Luxton and leave it at that.
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Post by davemorton on Sept 23, 2024 17:02:39 GMT
Chohan would be an exciting choice. He came to us as an 'unknown', but looked at home in the 2023 T20, with red-ball potential, surely. Then he 'disappeared' - injured or whatever - not even playing 2nd XI red ball. So perhaps I was wrong, the coaches had reassessed, and decided he was no good?
Our problem all season has been taking 20 wickets. Coad's return to absolutely 100% has papered over the cracks, and Thompson has looked refreshed. Fisher was always the missing link, but 'missing' has been his default position for years. I remember him sitting out the MCC game in Abu Dhabi, 2016. If only. Milnes is also missing, so our specialist seam bowling might have been adequate. Cliff has won his individual battle with Leech; he is much the better bowler of the two, with real pace potential.
Moriarty has been fine, up to that ridiculous bore-draw against Middlesex. Up to then, he was our choice when we played one spinner only. Even in that game, he started better than Bess, but Dom got better and better, as all the wickets fell to him, while Dan's wheels fell off. With those two, we have two very competent spinners, but Chohan might give us the X-factor.
The improvement this year has been in the accuracy of the bowlers, and correct selection, with Hill and Revis and the spinners giving us control, along with Ben Coad, of course. The number of all-rounders has enabled us to achieve balance.
Out of the whole lot of them, really only Moriarty and Cliff can't bat. Best of all has been the fielding. Is this the best Yorkshire fielding side ever? It might be.
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Post by donnylad on Sept 23, 2024 18:30:36 GMT
I'd play the same or nearly the same team that beat Glamorgan. By and large these are the players that have put our really good run together.
The weather will be the deciding factor - but we could say
a) .. lets have a flat one and then the toss is less important and we could bat for 2 bonus points and a draw ... or we could say
b) .. lets have a result pitch and ideally win the toss (get the BPs that way) and skittle them bat well, and see if we can win with the draw as a fall back.
Option (b) has the danger that we lose the toss, get inserted and clobbered by Sanderson and Proctor ... or not.
I would not judge the team if they opted for (a) ... but it would (as DM says) be nice to play a game that really matters without a boundary on one side that a 14 year old could clear with a good hit and on the other one where you need 2 throws to return the ball to the keeper.
Option (a)
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Post by hensonsprman on Sept 23, 2024 18:37:37 GMT
Chohan would be an exciting choice. He came to us as an 'unknown', but looked at home in the 2023 T20, with red-ball potential, surely. Then he 'disappeared' - injured or whatever - not even playing 2nd XI red ball. So perhaps I was wrong, the coaches had reassessed, and decided he was no good? Our problem all season has been taking 20 wickets. Coad's return to absolutely 100% has papered over the cracks, and Thompson has looked refreshed. Fisher was always the missing link, but 'missing' has been his default position for years. I remember him sitting out the MCC game in Abu Dhabi, 2016. If only. Milnes is also missing, so our specialist seam bowling might have been adequate. Cliff has won his individual battle with Leech; he is much the better bowler of the two, with real pace potential. Moriarty has been fine, up to that ridiculous bore-draw against Middlesex. Up to then, he was our choice when we played one spinner only. Even in that game, he started better than Bess, but Dom got better and better, as all the wickets fell to him, while Dan's wheels fell off. With those two, we have two very competent spinners, but Chohan might give us the X-factor. The improvement this year has been in the accuracy of the bowlers, and correct selection, with Hill and Revis and the spinners giving us control, along with Ben Coad, of course. The number of all-rounders has enabled us to achieve balance. Out of the whole lot of them, really only Moriarty and Cliff can't bat. Best of all has been the fielding. Is this the best Yorkshire fielding side ever? It might be. Dave, Chohan broke his thumb at the end of the t20 blast, hence why he did not play for the seconds until last week. Yorkshire did not release him for the CPL on the basis that he was needed for the Northants game. Agree with you on the fielding, it's he best I have seen. |
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Post by newby on Sept 23, 2024 20:02:10 GMT
I don't think Chohan was ever a serious choice to come into this game. I know England might do it but what evidence is there that would suggest he has the ability to play in a 4 day championship game.
I'm not sure of the timing but he was playing a 4 day game for the 2nds at the time. Could it be that he got an offer and wanted to fly off in the middle of that game and was refused permission by Yorkshire. I can't fault his wanting to go, but he does have a contract which I presume keeps him tied till the end of the season.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 24, 2024 7:18:14 GMT
now is not the time to tinker, think about the x-factor and worry about taking 20 wickets. We have managed to do this in 5 of the last 6 games I think,, the bore-fest v Middlesex being the exception.
In this game we dont even need to take 20 wickets to achieve the goal. We have landed on a successful and winning formula, so if it aint broke, dont fix it.
Only debate for me is as others have said above, do we go with an extra batter in Luxton in place of Moriarty. I think i would
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Post by davemorton on Sept 24, 2024 9:11:09 GMT
Agree with that SLA. Ten players nailed on, decision to be made about extra batsman or second spinner. Bess is first spinner (for me), so I suppose Chohan could just be preferred to Moriarty, especially given his greater batting / fielding potential. But I agree this is a bad time to tinker. Chohan should feature in pre-season, if he is seen as a real option, and take it from there.
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Post by newby on Sept 25, 2024 16:10:08 GMT
14 man squad, same as last time plus Matthew Revis. Whether he's fit to play, or they just wanted to bring him into the squad for the final home game is the question. Last 3 to miss out, probably.
Lyth, Bean, Wharton, Luxton, Bairstow, Hill, Tattersall, Bess, Fisher, Thompson, Coad, Revis, Moriarty, Cliff.
Northants 14 man squad includes Fateh Singh, a SLA bowler on loan from Notts to replace injured Rob Keogh, it will be his FC debut if he plays.
Luke Proctor(c), George Bartlett, Justin Broad, Arush Buchake, Freddie Heldrich, Lewis McManus(wk), Gus Miller, Krish Patel, James Sales, Ben Sanderson, Aadi Sharma, Fateh Singh, Jack White, Saif Zaib.
Sharma and Buchake are both rookies.
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Post by davemorton on Sept 25, 2024 16:27:53 GMT
A very unfamiliar Northants team. No Vasconcelos, or Gay (Durham bound), no Keogh, as stated, and no overseas.
I think I will struggle to make it, tomorrow. Feeling lousy. Hopefully the cricket will provide a cure.
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Post by newby on Sept 25, 2024 16:43:39 GMT
It's always difficult to be certain but even if I was a Duck I wouldn't be rushing over tomorrow.
Friday to Sunday looks more like it.
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