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Post by tykemania on May 3, 2024 10:16:14 GMT
I don't get why Hill is not in the side - yes we have a strong top five but he remains the coming man of our batting line up and he is no worse an option that Revis with the ball. I'm also not sure about playing two spinners (plus Root who has test match fivefers) in the first week of May during the wettest start to a....
and breathe Iain.
I have so wanted Gibson to work out as Yorkshire coach. His record is great and he seems a genuinely decent bloke. But I am coming to the conclusion that a change is needed quick sharp.
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Post by slowleftarmer on May 3, 2024 10:24:07 GMT
I suppose Hill has played all 3 before today and Revis only got in last week and then did not get a bat and had to bowl in unfavourable conditions. No point swapping and changing players so they get no rhythm, hence Revis keeps his place.
Agree 2 spinners is odd this time of the year unless we have deliberately prepared a spin friendly track viewing that as our best hope of taking 20 wickets.
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Post by newby on May 3, 2024 10:34:09 GMT
Yorkshire playing on the same pitch as the Derbyshire game may to some extent explain the two 'proper' spinners.
Perhaps a brave decision to go for a results knowing they wouldn't be getting a full game in.
I like to see George Hill playing but he hasn't taken any wickets since the Leicestershire game and hasn't really looked like taking any to be honest.
It's not 'more of the same' so let's judge the coach on the result.
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Post by davemorton on May 3, 2024 11:32:02 GMT
Deja vu all over again. Same rubbish pitch - literally the same - draw already at 90%. Two ineffective seamers replaced by two (probably) ineffective spinners; it would be unfair to judge Bess before he has actually bowled a ball! There are some residual footmarks from last week. Over-rate should be okay.
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Post by davemorton on May 3, 2024 12:09:35 GMT
Bonus of a wicket, last ball of the morning - and possibly last of the day, if forecast correct - with Moriarty troubling Billy R all through the over, from the above-mentioned rough.
I have been watching play from Taunton, where Essex have lost 5 wickets on a very green pitch. Harry Duke in at 7, so that should make an attractive alternative, should Headingley be rained off. Perhaps a more attractive alternative, even if Leeds stays dry.
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Post by newby on May 3, 2024 15:29:52 GMT
Covers going back on before a scheduled inspection at 16:30. Doesn't look very promising for today.
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Post by newby on May 3, 2024 16:39:58 GMT
Back on so they will get 50 overs in if they play to the close. Unlucky for Sam Northeast, but we will take it. 97/3 Coad and Fisher should be refreshed so another couple of wickets tonight would make it a decent day.
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Post by davemorton on May 3, 2024 16:44:42 GMT
Small things to keep one amused during a dismal day. The cricket from Taunton has been good, marred only by a prat of a commentator called Harry something. His great moment came when a Somerset wicket fell and he exclaimed that it was impossible to understand how Cook was not in the England side. Vic Marks agreed with him, "but that was Porter, actually."
Back at Headingley, play resumed at 5.30. Yorkshire allowed to use Fisher, despite the floodlit players' shadows showing clearly.
"And lengthening," added one of the commentators. Structural failure? Those white rose floodlights sinking into crumbling concrete? I don't think he meant it as a joke.
Anyway, Sam Northeast is out, bonus point gained, just 17 wickets needed, plus a few runs. Make that 16, as Bessy gets c & b.
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Post by newby on May 3, 2024 17:12:04 GMT
You can go back to old style syncing the radio commentary, which is a bit better to the pictures. Somerset are one of those clubs who have their own commentary team for the TV pictures. The ones who have their own commentary team seem to have one very commercially minded commentator on all day to try and push events. At one stage it was like the shopping channel with him pushing gadgets for the hard of hearing among others.
Watched a bit of Lancashire TV earlier which seems to be synced to the Sky commentary today, at least they had a stellar cast of commentators.
I see Radio 5SX went over to the IPL today for the first time when the CC is being played. Not sure if it's supposed to be starting to get exciting or is it because Surrey have a blank week!
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Post by hawke on May 4, 2024 5:33:39 GMT
Who is paying for the You Tube feed? It's great to sit down at home and watch but how is it affordable?
Yes the day seemed flat like the pitch until the two late unexpected wickets. Fisher looked very ordinary early on, has he lost some pace through his injuries, though he seemed refreshed in the different conditions later for that brief time. Revis looked lively to me. Unlucky for Hill. Let's wait and see regards the spinners. It's an interesting option provided the conditions are helpful. Shame neither are Yorkshire-born. On that subject we have 8 Yorkshire products in the side to Glamorgan's 3 home grown players. Derbyshire had no Academy trained players against us. Lancs currently have 6.
Billy Root is a mirror image if his brother isn't he. I don't recall him being in the Yorkshire system.
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Post by karma on May 4, 2024 7:51:25 GMT
I think the You-tube feed is paid for largely by YCCC(and some input from the ECB) It's a bit like our Natonal Health service at the moment, it costs money to provide but is *'free at the point of service or deivery'ie us viewers, flicking from one match to another pay nowt.
I think matches being recorded are used as part of training or coaching for Yorkshire cricket but the days of provision of livestream, 'free' or rather without charge might be numbered.
There are a number of counties struggling financially and I'm sure there is an ongoing argument between 'free' broadcasts being a shop window to attract new paying supporters and the loss of revenue from existing supporters staying at home to watch for free.
Personally, I would not have a problem paying for Livestreamed cricket , I've done it for some lower league football matches and during Covid when a live audience on the terraces were not allowed it was the only way to get income to keep the clubs going.
* Going off-piste, I had occasion to walk to my local GP's surgery last month (April) to request a face-to-face GP appointment (and for which I know only a face-to-face is suitable). I was told there are no face-to-face appointments until June . They are free however at the point of delivery.
Using the NHS APP showed a wait of several weeks. I could have a telephone 'appointment' a triage , I think it is called where, if they think it's worthwhile having a face to face , it can be arranged but not straight away.
I used the NHS App and over a couple of days, where there were cancellations ,I booked an appointment and then when an earlier one became available moved forward until the middle of May. Much better than going to hospital because a local service is not being provided. My one 'fear' is that I'm depriving someone who might have a more urgent need than me
I'm absolutely fine though and I'll be on NE Upper today getting some exercise and hopefully being lifted by the cricket and conversation. Bess and Moriarty bowling in tandem, that would be something to see 🏏
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Post by davemorton on May 4, 2024 8:40:51 GMT
I am intending watching the first hour and a half on YouTube, then making the journey to arrive during lunch, if that seems sensible.
It is an utterly cheerless day, here in Manchester, wall-to-wall grey dampness, cold and clammy.
On the subject of selection and team balance, I am generally in favour of the two-spinner option. But Headingley has rarely been spin-friendly. I remember Peter Such bowling us out here, and James Tredwell (to deny us the Championship) and Jack Leach, more recently. However, on the principle of selecting your best bowlers, there is no doubt that Bess and Moriarty are better than any of our change seamers.
I do remember a great game at Taunton, where we selected two spinners, Rafiq and Carver, but they were banished to the outfield to watch Lyth take on the role which, in support of Sidebottom, was to win the game for us. Carver took the winning catch, and made some brave runs, but Lyth was (and is) a better spinner than the selected pair.
As for Hill being dropped...well. I'm speechless. Revis does however give us a bit of variety. He looked a better bowler than Fisher, yesterday, and you could argue that Revis and Bess are, between them, better batsmen than Hill alone, i.e. in probable total runs.
It all smacks of desperation by Gibson. We have a settled top five batting (for this one final game), he has made his wicket-keeping choice, though either is fine, and we have one reliable and fit seam bowler. Just one. We probably have the weakest attack in the 2nd Division.
[I wonder what doctors actually do to fill their days, those times when they used to see NHS patients. Have they now a full load of private patients? Or is the NHS paperwork so bad it takes them all day to complete it for those few patients who do get inside their surgeries?]
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Post by donnylad on May 4, 2024 10:53:18 GMT
Hill, the best of our batsmen after Lyth and Masood at the monment ..... so Moriarty is a better bat? Bess. Root and Lyth between them could cover the spin. Why deny potential runs? I am worried that we have 2 seamers who are not 'stayers' and tend towards injury, Milnes and Fisher. Fisher and Thommo seem to have lost pace which is also worrying. I wonder if playing 2 spinners with 2 others who can spin, is an admission of the weaknesses in our bowling?
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Post by davemorton on May 4, 2024 15:16:25 GMT
In the end, I didn't fancy spending yet another day freezing, in a miserable soulless stadium. Casting envious eyes to Taunton, where a big crowd is watching exciting cricket in the sun.
The actual cricket is okay at Headingley, where our two spinners have worked their way through Glammy's somewhat flimsy batting. The Northeast run out was a huge bonus. We seem to have been hampered by some poor catching, but assisted by some even poorer umpiring.
I feared the worst when Mir Hamza swung more balls in his first over than Yorkshire have this season, but he was a lone seam threat. Brilliant cameo from Masood and a shame he got out, but Crane is going to pose a danger to left-handers out of the rough. I no longer think we've the worst attack in Division 2. Glamorgan last time had Neser and van der Gugten and, with them, they would be a threat. Without them, probably not.
Good for us, also, that their two left-arm seamers will produce some rough on Bess's side of the pitch. We could even win this one!
Elsewhere Lancs are 48 for 7, which is always good for a laugh.
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Post by tykemania on May 4, 2024 16:33:13 GMT
Turned the youtube feed on after a thoroughly pleasant day wandering around Kew Gardens and a rather interesting little exhibition at the National Archive. Having seen the 8 wickets Moriarty and Bess picked up, I was expecting the ball to do something for Glamorgan...whilst Crane ragged the odd one, his misses, both full and short, resembled my driving on a very bad day and Yorkshire have raced along at over 6 an over.
Our attack...thats a tough one, and I suspect we are all a little harsh on them (Mr Morton, I'm looking at you...). Coad remains top notch, Fisher, Milnes, Thompson, Hill and Revis all have their positives - they're just too samey on a pitch that offers little help, and I think when our batting inevitably weakens with England calls we might want to add some help from abroad...or play on used pitches!
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