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Post by newby on Jan 14, 2024 19:45:45 GMT
Starts on Friday the 19th in South Africa. It was originally due to be played in Sri Lanka.
4 Groups of 4 round robin followed by a Super Six, I presume that is group winners plus best 2 runner ups.
Group A India, Bangladesh, United States, Ireland Group B England, Scotland, South Africa, West Indies Group C Australia, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Namibia Group D Afghanistan, Pakistan, New Zealand, Nepal.
No Yorkshire players this time round unfortunately, but a couple of well known names, sons of former players: Benkinstein, Mustard and Denly:
Plus brothers of current players: Ahmed, Jack and Allison.
It's usually on Sky, on the free Sky Mix channel but I presume the ICC will be streaming it on YouTube.
England lost to Afghanistan in their first warm-up game today.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 15, 2024 16:34:14 GMT
Thanks Newby. You're like a little ferret on that interweb. They usually show the closing stages of the U19 WC, so we saw a bit of Luxton hitting sixes last time, and Harry's team getting bowled out by Pope in NZ is a less happy memory.
I enjoy age-group 50 overs more than I do the Seniors. Less formulaic, and they've not yet had the enjoyment coached out of them - a trend which Bazball might have arrested. You can understand the fear factor. It's actually fear (of failure) that makes real cricket exciting, and to do well you've got to overcome and channel it.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
(from Frank Herbert’s ‘Dune’)
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Post by newby on Jan 15, 2024 17:49:24 GMT
It looks like Sky are showing every game in full, they've certainly got the first couple of weeks covered.
I like it as an opportunity to spot the next stars coming through. It doesn't always work out of course but generally there's a couple of players that stand out from the rest in terms of their ability and maturity beyond their years. It doesn't really matter which side they play for, I suspect India will dominate things but who knows.
Later edit: I didn't realise there are 3 games some days so I'll amend that to Sky are showing one full game a day.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 15, 2024 21:23:02 GMT
Yes, I love the talent spotting element. Of course, we haven't spotted them. The fact of their selection means someone else has already done that. Same with County 2nd XI. Our opponents, as well as Yorkshire.
It's excellent that it is in S Africa, from the match hours point of view. Same as ours, near enough, and the pitches are likely to be interesting.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jan 16, 2024 7:38:17 GMT
Minor pedantic point - I dont think Jaydn Denly is the son of Kent's Joe, but he is his nephew
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Post by karma on Jan 16, 2024 10:05:14 GMT
Minor non-cricket point, Dave, well remembered quotation. One of my favourite books. They are I understand making a new film of 'Dune', none of the ones so far have really captured it properly. So fingers crossed.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 16, 2024 12:35:48 GMT
There was an awful film starring Kyle MacLachlan as Paul Atreides, and an even worse TV mini-series.
But the recent film, starring Timothee Chalamet, is pretty good, and visually impressive, though it covers only the first part of the first book. Sequel in the pipeline, or even released, I think.
'Dune' the novel was amazing when it came out, all those years ago, dealing with topics like ecology and climate change, so familiar to us nowadays (as well as amazing technology and politics). I enjoyed the next two books, but the final three descended into incomprehensible gibberish. Best to stop while you are ahead - like David Warner, for example.
I have been a huge SF fan (not sci-fi) for 70 years, now. Great books, generally appalling films. The worst film of all time might have been 'The Day of the Triffids', though in this case the TV series was nearly as good as the book, and very faithful to it.
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Post by newby on Jan 16, 2024 19:33:27 GMT
Minor pedantic point - I dont think Jaydn Denly is the son of Kent's Joe, but he is his nephew Well spotted. My main point is just how frighteningly small the cricketing talent gene pool appears to be.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jan 17, 2024 8:56:22 GMT
its all about opportunity I think - which comes from a local club at a young age or a public school thereafter.
My Dad played cricket, got me interested with trips to Scarborough and Headingley and Acklam park, took me to a junior section of a local club and then umpired a lot of my games as a kid, being of the view it was better than watching from the boundary edge.
I then did the same with my son although sadly his interest ceased from 17-27 but is starting to come back and we had a day at a 4 day match in Scarborough last year and a day at the Headingley test together but I stall whenever he invites me to go to the Hundred with him.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 17, 2024 11:14:24 GMT
That's very true. Of the f-c players I know best - that would be Atherton, Speak and Yates - I am the same age as, and played against, all their fathers. Also Warren Hegg, though I never knew Warren himself, I played against both his dad and his brother, and his mum was hon secretary at Stand CC.
If your dad doesn't play, perhaps you are a friend of a boy whose dad does, or perhaps you just live near a cricket ground, as you would in a small town, rather than in a city.
Where I live now, I can see the corner of Prestwich CC out of my window, and it is 50 yards from the tram station, right in the middle of the (suburban) village. Not surprisingly, it has a thriving and successful junior section. Always did.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 19, 2024 0:19:40 GMT
8 o'clock Friday morning (our time) South Africa v Windies, at Potchefstroom. [Also Ireland v USA at Bloemfontein]
Saturday, same time and place, England v Scotland. [Two other games elsewhere]
I am hugely looking forward to whatever they show. 3 weeks nearer summer, when it's all over.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 19, 2024 15:51:33 GMT
Superb opening game, full of swings and surprises. Bowlers win matches and, ultimately, Kwena Maphaka's five for 38 did it for South Africa. Left arm, only 17, and quick! - a mile ahead of all other bowlers in the match, except Windies left-arm spinner Nathan Sealy, who also batted well. Star batsman was Windies wicket-keeper Jewel Andrew, whose 130 almost won the game.
In the other game today, Ireland beat USA by 7 wickets.
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Post by newby on Jan 19, 2024 16:48:40 GMT
Watched some of Jewel Andrew's innings and I thought he looked very impressive. Aggressive though and I suppose on another day he could be made to look silly.
No right time for a run-out but Nathan Sealy's wicket came at just the wrong time. A couple of names to look out for already.
These two teams are in group B, as are England who play Scotland tomorrow.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 19, 2024 18:38:20 GMT
I think it might be fun to list those players who impress, and see what we have got by the end of the competition.
Batsmen: Jamie Dunk
Bat/keepers: Jewel Andrew
Keepers: Jack Carney, Ryan Kamwemba
All-rounders: Dinura Kalupahana (RMF)
Spin bowlers: Nathan Sealy (SLA), Farhan Ahmed (ROB), Parvez Rahman Jibon (ROB)
Pace bowlers: Kwena Maphaka (LF), Seb Morgan (RFM)
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Post by davemorton on Jan 20, 2024 8:44:09 GMT
Got up in time to watch the whole of Eng v Sco. Already hugely enjoyable, a Scots opening bat who is the image of Kane Williamson, a lovely fast-medium bowler from Middlesex, and Rehan Ahmed's 15-year-old brother, who has just taken two in an over, as I type. 28 for two.
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