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Post by newby on Jan 31, 2024 10:24:54 GMT
Australia on top early on but Ali and Ahmed have them pinned down in these middle overs.
Honours even perhaps, if these two bowl out will that allow Australia to win the final 10 overs!
Interesting game, must win for England though.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 31, 2024 10:35:33 GMT
Loving the quality of it. Ahmed and Ali are superb, and where has Wylie been? I didn't understand leaving Morgan out after the first game, and he and Jack have been very good also. Keeper Carney, again, also.
And good as England have been, Australia have matched them. The dropped catch might prove the nail in England's WC coffin. Running between wickets outstanding.
Wylie gets another, as I type; 174 for five.
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Post by newby on Jan 31, 2024 11:09:58 GMT
Aussie Skipper just made his century, the drop from Luc Benkinstein looks more and more significant.
He hasn't done much so far so this would be a good day to make up for the for drop if he's opening the batting. Wylie's a batter too I think.
260/270 looks on and the batters are going to need to stand up.
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Post by newby on Jan 31, 2024 12:01:04 GMT
No surprise in the other game in our group with South Africa sprinting to an easy win against Zimbabwe.
If, and it's a big if, we can win today, we may still need to do something very special in the final game to make up the NRR.
Anyway, that's for another day, let's see how we go against the Australian quicks.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jan 31, 2024 13:19:13 GMT
off for bad weather/light but if we get back on I think we will struggle from 604 in 10th over.
How many overs need to be played for DL to kick in?
Sounds like the Aussies have an exciting young prospect in Vidler who has all 4 wickets taken to date
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Post by newby on Jan 31, 2024 13:55:40 GMT
I think it's 20 overs to get get a result, plenty of sunlight left but it does look very wet at the moment.
Pity about that last wicket that will make any DLS calculations even stiffer. I thought they should aim to see off Vidler, it's not like they were under any pressure in terms of run rate during the first power play.
If it ends in a drawn match I think that would be almost as bad as a loss for England. They'd still have a chance but would be totally in the hands of other results.
I meant daylight, not necessary sunlight.
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Post by newby on Jan 31, 2024 16:20:29 GMT
Ended up being a bit of a rout in the end. England ended up on the wrong side of Duckworth Lewis again, but that's no excuse, they were well beaten.
Lots of spin options for England but very little in terms of pace bowling, and the batting hasn't looked convincing at any stage.
Back to the drawing board.
Looking forward to India v Australia, if it happens, and if they both play as well as they have in the last two televised games.
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Post by davemorton on Jan 31, 2024 18:17:42 GMT
I didn't see the start of our innings, and the rain came just as I started watching again. I assume the Vidler boy was good. We have shown ability at 1, 3 and 4, and the ones below that have not had opportunities, but I suspect our batting is the weaker suit.
We seem to have gambled on a T20-style powerplay. Gambled and lost, but at least we gave it a go. I can see those spinners at a higher level, very soon, that's the two Asian lads and Warwickshire Wylie. Let's face it, if you can bowl decent spin in England, the world's your winkle. Minimum, winkle. Cockle, mussel, oyster...onward and upward.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Feb 1, 2024 7:38:54 GMT
Yes, I think we lack depth in the batting and the big guns in the top 5 have not really come off regularly enough to set a platform other than a couple of knocks by McKinney, but agree the spin bowling looks to be our strong suit.
Not sure which of our eligible Yorkshire lads might have missed out narrowly but I hope we have a few who could come through to the first team in the next couple of years, even if not on England's radar.
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Post by newby on Feb 1, 2024 9:22:39 GMT
Young Theo Wylie was being interviewed after the first innings, he started off as a quick bowler but because of persistent niggles his coach turned him into a spin bowler and opening batsman.
I wonder if that kind of thing can get you by at Youth Level, but is likely to get found out when the opposition improves. His bowling looked good yesterday, we didn't see enough of his batting to tell but anyone can be out early.
Will he be one for the future, or will he disappear from view!
Of those playing for England I suspect Shaikh, McKinney, Carney and Ali to be names to look out for, they seem to have what it takes at least in the shorter form of the game, Thain, I'm not sure.
Of course Benkinstein, Denly and Ahmed will be around, their names probably guarantee them being given the time. Such is life.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Feb 1, 2024 11:24:48 GMT
I thought there was also a Mustard in the squad but he has not yet had a game - maybe the selectors are not that "hot" on him
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Post by davemorton on Feb 1, 2024 11:28:38 GMT
I think Ahmed is the best of the lot. Remember the name! And I still like Morgan, who could be a born-again Brian Statham if he can find an extra couple of yards - or a Patto, if he can't. Jack reminds me of Tremlett, more than a little. I think we're rich in bowling talent.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Feb 1, 2024 11:28:51 GMT
Good finish by Scotland to their innings v Namibia, thanks largely to Bahadar Esakhiel (not sure what his family tartan looks like...) who hit 26 off the last over including 4 sixes and ended up with 76 not out from 54 balls
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Post by newby on Feb 1, 2024 14:28:39 GMT
I'd forgotten about Mustard, if he's fit I hope he gets a run-out in the final game against Zimbabwe, long way to go to not play.
Thinking about all the spin bowling options we had, arguably too many, I wonder if the team was picked early with Sri Lanka, the original venue, in mind.
I'm not knocking those that did bowl, but I thought South Africa, Australia and the West Indies had the better wicket taking bowling options, in the first 10 overs anyway.
Perhaps there's just nobody coming through with real pace and what we saw was the best we had.
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Post by newby on Feb 1, 2024 18:08:14 GMT
Good finish by Scotland to their innings v Namibia, thanks largely to Bahadar Esakhiel (not sure what his family tartan looks like...) who hit 26 off the last over including 4 sixes and ended up with 76 not out from 54 balls Scotland won by 3 runs in the end. Game advertised as 16th place play-off, as was a game the other day when Afghanistan beat the USA. It doesn't look like any of the teams play again so I presume they have somehow been magically graded into 13th to 16th place.
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