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Graves
Feb 4, 2024 17:16:51 GMT
Post by davemorton on Feb 4, 2024 17:16:51 GMT
My two friends who went to Oz and returned. One was a teammate of mine at Marston's (Brewery) CC back in the 1960s. He would have been about 20, and universally popular. The other was a very good player for Prestwich CC, who played first grade in Melbourne. He was shy, and prickly and difficult, and few had any time for him here. I think I was one of the few who recognised shyness as a root of his problem.
It didn't stop him counting to five and pinching a single, then five more dots and a single, when he was batting with me. He would not have coped well with Aussie banter. I think I see a parallel with the Rafiq thing. He was disliked not because of his race, but because he was dislikeable.
The Beatles' 'You all live in a convict colony, convict colony' was funny, or it would have been if they didn't sing its single verse all day. The version of Waltzing Matilda was well over the top, in a very prim and proper country.
On five visits, and on a trip to S Africa with an Aussie group, and playing with and against them in England, I have never had a problem with any Australian...except the stadium authorities at the Gabba, who harassed us at every turn.
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Graves
Feb 8, 2024 18:14:12 GMT
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Post by karma on Feb 8, 2024 18:14:12 GMT
FCA have approved Graves election to board, he will be elected Chair at tomorrow's YCCC Board meeting . Members will vote on this at (next month's) AGM
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Post by slowleftarmer on Feb 9, 2024 8:47:09 GMT
Congratulations Colin, and welcome back. Good luck with the challenge ahead of you..... trophies, debts cleared, new sponsors found and peace, unity and a decent pie and a pint in the ground
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Post by newby on Feb 9, 2024 11:02:31 GMT
Congratulations Colin, and welcome back. Good luck with the challenge ahead of you..... trophies, debts cleared, new sponsors found and peace, unity and a decent pie and a pint in the ground Amen to that, adding at a reasonable price of course. A new sponsor, or partner announced yesterday and the website branding sponsors still seem to be intact. Hopefully we can attract some old ones back that I can relate to. Aunt Bessie's, Jackson's bread, Yorkshire tea and Harrogate spring water for instance. In my own mini boycott I haven't bought any of their products since they pulled out. I'm honestly confounded as to how Yorkshire Tea have managed to carry on without my business!
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Graves
Feb 9, 2024 14:40:57 GMT
Post by karma on Feb 9, 2024 14:40:57 GMT
I used, newby, to like the 'joke' that went something like , "I'll tell you who's never out of the kitchen". " That Aunt Bessie" Appreciate it's a poor joke and, I can say we've never bought any of her puddings, Yorkshire spring water ( or any bottled water) or any Jackson's bread. Not 100% sure about Yorkshire tea but when I'm doing the shopping I get Waitrose's own brand budget decaf teabags. I was reading last week in an article published (or quoted) on that other place that one previous sponsor of YCCC withdrew their sponsorship and personal membership not because of charges of racism against the club but because the club sacked their coaching staff. Now I'd not heard this news before but I actually wonder if any other previous sponsors withdrew for reasons other than racist claims, which has been the usual party line. I had of course heard that 'Clean Slate' which as far as I am aware still has the naming rights to Headingley stadium (or IOU stadium as I like to call it), stopped paying their sponsorship when their ie Clean Slate's, still current employee, Lord Patel, left YCCC.
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Graves
Feb 9, 2024 23:26:14 GMT
Post by newby on Feb 9, 2024 23:26:14 GMT
A nasty snide little bit of journalism by the BBC.
"A takeover by a consortium led by Graves was approved by Yorkshire members at a general meeting last week.
Speaking to members at that meeting, Chathli said directors would be "discharging our duty of care" if they put the club into administration "just because we didn't like a personality".
I noticed the juxtaposition in an article last week, they have just repeated it today in the report of CG becoming Chair.
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Graves
Feb 10, 2024 8:00:19 GMT
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Post by hawke on Feb 10, 2024 8:00:19 GMT
all the reporting, except in the YP, is biased and prejudiced against YCCC
the most recent examples are the general headlines that Graves has apologised for racism at YCCC
my reading of his words are that he apologies to anyone who has suffered from racism at YCCC
but that is not an acknowledgement that anyone has!!!
certainly nothing is proven, just generally believed
what matters is not the truth so much as what people believe to be the truth
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Post by karma on Feb 10, 2024 8:09:41 GMT
And of course "everyone deserves a second chance" , according to contrite ex-antisemite Azeem Rafiq.
But from what I can gather, this doesn't apply to Colin Graves, who of course was never charged with anything during his previous tenure.
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Graves
Feb 10, 2024 8:22:05 GMT
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Post by karma on Feb 10, 2024 8:22:05 GMT
Oh and I'm now going on record to say that I'm looking forward to the Yorkshire's cricket season, will attend every game in Yorkshire that I'm able (and some away)
Also that I'm not going to let my season being defined by the events of the last few years especially the recent mis-information put out by individuals leading up to the vote at the EGM.
That battle has been won and I'm not going to fight it again. If I see people projecting their opinion as fact then my natural inclination is to correct it . I'm going to try to resist doing that too much and concentrate upon what it's all about namely a game of cricket and good conversation too.
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Post by donnylad on Feb 10, 2024 12:22:21 GMT
OK. It is done and dusted and we need to move forward. I cannot forget what in all probability was going on but the club and supporters must move forward whilst making absolutely bl***y sure it does not happen again.
That means some hands on, eyes and ears wide open, people management at all levels in the club.
If our best batter, fast bowler, keeper, spinner, physio, groundsman or the pavilion cat does or says something that looks and smells and sounds wrong or appears to, then something is done. Words of advice whatever you want to call it but no more of 'Oh it is just banter'.
Right, so ...... on the subject of Aunt Bessie!
Years ago back in the day I prepared a work unit for our Year 11 about Food Manufacture. One of the sections was about identifying foods and what actually went into their making. One of the group mentioned Aunt Bessie's roast potatoes. I hunted round and found a video of how frozen roast potatoes were made. We viewed the video and at the end the lad said that Aunt Bessie must have had the day off because she wasn't in the video. A bit of discussion and rewind viewing showed that the only person in the video was the bloke who poured sacks of spuds into a hopper ... the spuds went through a number of machines and mechanical processes and came out in little boxes straight into the deep freeze!
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Graves
Feb 10, 2024 12:50:51 GMT
Post by tbsteve on Feb 10, 2024 12:50:51 GMT
all the reporting, except in the YP, is biased and prejudiced against YCCC the most recent examples are the general headlines that Graves has apologised for racism at YCCC my reading of his words are that he apologies to anyone who has suffered from racism at YCCC but that is not an acknowledgement that anyone has!!! certainly nothing is proven, just generally believed what matters is not the truth so much as what people believe to be the truth I wouldn't say all Hawke. Mike Atherton over at The Times has had some very even-handed, even sympathetic, pieces. I might be mis-remembering, but think The Times faced some pressure not to publish his interview with Kunwar Bansil, maybe from the DCMS.
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Graves
Feb 10, 2024 13:30:31 GMT
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Post by hawke on Feb 10, 2024 13:30:31 GMT
all the reporting, except in the YP, is biased and prejudiced against YCCC the most recent examples are the general headlines that Graves has apologised for racism at YCCC my reading of his words are that he apologies to anyone who has suffered from racism at YCCC but that is not an acknowledgement that anyone has!!! certainly nothing is proven, just generally believed what matters is not the truth so much as what people believe to be the truth I wouldn't say all Hawke. Mike Atherton over at The Times has had some very even-handed, even sympathetic, pieces. I might be mis-remembering, but think The Times faced some pressure not to publish his interview with Kunwar Bansil, maybe from the DCMS. fair enough…… I had not read that…thanks
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Graves
Feb 10, 2024 14:33:53 GMT
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Post by karma on Feb 10, 2024 14:33:53 GMT
I think it's often often said that the first casualty in a war (in this case of words) is the truth.
Most of the published articles I've seen are either untrue, biased, want to print only one side or just want to put the boot into Yorkshire.
Most consistent has been Waters in the YP , and consequently Dobell has said 'he's out of his depth' and 'The Yorkshiree Post is a racist newspaper read by racists' Most unprofessional from one journalist to another.Dobell also told Atherton he was wrong so I've more of a liking for Atherton too!
I haven't read my today's copy of the YP yet but I am colour blind literally and racially.
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Graves
Feb 10, 2024 18:47:44 GMT
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Post by hawke on Feb 10, 2024 18:47:44 GMT
I think it's often often said that the first casualty in a war (in this case of words) is the truth. Most of the published articles I've seen are either untrue, biased, want to print only one side or just want to put the boot into Yorkshire. Most consistent has been Waters in the YP , and consequently Dobell has said 'he's out of his depth' and 'The Yorkshiree Post is a racist newspaper read by racists' Most unprofessional from one journalist to another.Dobell also told Atherton he was wrong so I've more of a liking for Atherton too! I haven't read my today's copy of the YP yet but I am colour blind literally and racially. and it all affects public perception which can be read on various sites, the majority of posts continuing to follow the Rafiq/Dobell narrative and heavily criticise YCCC. I don’t post the alternative opinion on such sites, especially if you cannot be anonymous. As in the fifties in the USA you will be accused, this time of the r word, as opposed to the c word under McCarthy.
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Post by davemorton on Feb 10, 2024 20:29:35 GMT
Yes, Dobell would make a good McCarthy. "Are you, or have you ever been, a Yorkshireman?" Lying, opportunist little ****, is my balanced and reasonable judgment.
We stand accused and guilty, all of us, of being something we are not (and have never been). Some of us have stood in the street and shouted our opposition to racism and prejudice.
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