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Graves
Jan 30, 2024 7:29:59 GMT
Post by karma on Jan 30, 2024 7:29:59 GMT
Colin Graves has accepted an invitation to go in front of the Select Committee (DCMS) on 20th February having previously declined .
I suppose he will have to practice giving prepared answers to anticipated questions, just like the PM for Prime Minister Question Time, including possibly the first two:
1) What do you understand by the term 'banter'?
2) What is the title of Azeem Rafiq's book?
And many others , no prizes for guessing what he'll be asked
PS I'm hoping to attend the EGM this Friday at Headingley. Is anyone else planning to be there?
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Post by newby on Jan 30, 2024 9:24:52 GMT
At least the DCMS will be after the EGM so, apart from some grandstanding with an election on the horizon, won't really effect the price of fish.
As a fellow 75 year old I hope his mind is a little sharper than mine and he doesn't fall into an traps. I doubt he will.
Love to attend the EGM but I'm a carer now, so my life is not my own.
I hope it goes well and stays relevant and they don't hand the mic to the bloke who wants to go back over why Patto was let go.
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Graves
Jan 30, 2024 12:07:15 GMT
Post by davemorton on Jan 30, 2024 12:07:15 GMT
I hope it goes well and stays relevant and they don't hand the mic to the bloke who wants to go back over why Patto was let go.
There's little chance of anyone who gives a **** about the club - or actually about cricket - getting anywhere near the mic, I would guess. The whole thing is so depressing, the depths to which we have sunk. From famous institution to political football, in one generation.
Empty, scheming men.
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Post by newby on Jan 30, 2024 14:14:14 GMT
A bit harsh I think, not sure we've been much of an institution since I was a lad. I'm not putting him up for sainthood, or even a knighthood but I think CG cares about the club.
Lots of fine words but nobody else stepping up to the plate.
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Graves
Jan 30, 2024 19:52:25 GMT
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Post by karma on Jan 30, 2024 19:52:25 GMT
At least the DCMS will be after the EGM so, apart from some grandstanding with an election on the horizon, won't really effect the price of fish. As a fellow 75 year old I hope his mind is a little sharper than mine and he doesn't fall into an traps. I doubt he will. Love to attend the EGM but I'm a carer now, so my life is not my own. I hope it goes well and stays relevant and they don't hand the mic to the bloke who wants to go back over why Patto was let go. I'm sorry to have to tell you newby that Colin Graves celebrated his 76th birthday last week. I'm sure though that like you his mind is as bright as a button and that he's ready for Friday's EGM and the subsequent DCMS on 20th Feb. Appreciate too that going to the EGM takes 2nd place to your very important duties. I'll be going because I'm only a couple of miles from Headingley and although I'm a bit of a crock, I'm determined to remain mobile ,to reach my wife's birthday in August, our 50th wedding Anniversary in September, our daughter's wedding in October and my birthday in November. That apart and before all that, I've paid for my membership and want to see a full season of Yorkshire cricket including several trips to Scarborough 🌊. Strangely enough , whenever I go on-line to check my weather forecast it's always pre-populated for Scarborough! Of course unless there is a 'Yes' vote there might not be a 2024 season so I'm going along to act as adjudicator and paradoxically snatch the microphone away from dinosaurs. Metaphorically speaking of course, I know how to show my appreciation or otherwise for questions that turn in to statements.
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Graves
Feb 1, 2024 15:59:35 GMT
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Post by karma on Feb 1, 2024 15:59:35 GMT
A livestream of the EGM will be available for members and will be available to view later for those member's unable to watch live.
Now this is a great move. And the press often complained about not having access to GM's EGM's and with which I concur, particularly under Lord P.
So Mr. Waters, just become a member.
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Graves
Feb 2, 2024 11:07:48 GMT
Post by newby on Feb 2, 2024 11:07:48 GMT
88% for the resolution. Colin Graves is comfortably installed. Let us hope it goes well.
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Post by karma on Feb 2, 2024 13:50:51 GMT
Yes it went well by way of result and by that I mean a 'Yes' vote which is what I preferred.
Harry Chathli our outgoing Chairman, was outstanding, steering a careful path between his duties to get the vote completed and taking questions from the floor - in the latter case he was very diplomatic as some of the questions were more as statements and he also calmed down impatience from some audience members - 'please let the questioner speak'
He also gave some indication about the work involved by the board, early starts for some board meetings, late finishes, taking legal and financial advice - a colossal amount of work to get to this point. He mentioned one suitor with whom the club had agreed to go forward but the organisation didn't complete their promise. Some questioners also slipped into their 'accusing Graves of wrongdoing mode' ie racism on his watch. As far as I'm aware he hasn't been charged or formally accused of any wrongdoing (apart from his clumsy but honest interpretation of 'banter'
Graves gave a speach stressing that he couldn't go into detail until the FCA had concluded its 'approval'
I'll miss Harry Chathli though
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Graves
Feb 2, 2024 13:54:50 GMT
Post by davemorton on Feb 2, 2024 13:54:50 GMT
Gun pointed at head. No choice. Like Brexit, I abstained. Let's hope it turns out better for Yorkshire than it has for UK. I suppose YCCC has a chance it might outlive me, but we may well become the new Accrington Stanley.
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Graves
Feb 2, 2024 14:06:08 GMT
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Post by karma on Feb 2, 2024 14:06:08 GMT
What's Accrington Stanley? 🥛
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Graves
Feb 2, 2024 16:50:31 GMT
Post by newby on Feb 2, 2024 16:50:31 GMT
Glad to see their were so few 'Crash Test Dummies', voting, or not voting, in order to pinpoint the exact destruction point of the club.
Not exactly where any of us wanted to be I'm sure, but some breathing space and time to look to the future.
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Post by davemorton on Feb 2, 2024 17:20:15 GMT
I think that's right. The mistake was 20 years ago, and the Gang of Four, from which point the disenfranchised members have watched helplessly as our 'betters' have taken us deeper and deeper into debt.
The race thing is an irrelevance. Not that there isn't racism. We have voted in a government of the extreme right. Racism is everywhere there are people. I cannot believe that YCCC is worse than any of the other Counties, or the MCC, Church of England, boy scouts, House of Lords or the Coach & Horses. Try visiting Scotland, if you're English!
The only time I have witnessed blatant racism and abuse on a cricket ground was at a Test match at Old Trafford, unless the Barmy Army mocking the Convicts counts - which, actually, it should. I sat next to one Australian in Perth, who was deeply offended and upset by these louts. Only banter, of course.
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Post by byased on Feb 3, 2024 22:35:45 GMT
Agreed. At least there is an immediate future, which potentially would not be the case if Graves did not step in. I hope he gets rid of Vaughan, and his management speak, fairly quickly. Also agree on the racism front, it is everywhere in pockets, and Yorkshire will be no better or worse than most clubs. Most racism is hypocritical as well. I play tennis at a "posh" club in Tettenhall near Wolverhampton. Many friends of mine voted for Brexit on the grounds of "sovereignty" (and a limit on immigrants from all other nations) They are mainly Wolves supporters who have hardly anyone from other than Portugal or Spain in the team, but do not seem to see the irony. I do think the English are not great in this, banter or not. Australians that I have met, generally like the English, whilst mocking our pomposity.
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Post by davemorton on Feb 4, 2024 2:02:48 GMT
I like Pom - posity. I did actually have two cricket playing friends who emigrated to Oz, intending to make a new life there, but both returned, citing anti-Pom racism as the reason. The Australians are as guilty as Americans in their genocide of the native population. We had our Empire, of course, which was not a philanthropic organisation.
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Post by byased on Feb 4, 2024 14:56:30 GMT
In defence of the Aussies, most of the early ones who cleared the native inhabitants were English by descent, by way of prisoners deported etc. I have never met an unpleasant Aussie personally, and my son, who played out there for a couple of years, was treated extremely well. Perhaps your mates showed some signs of pom-posity? I am sure they didn't. I was out there the year after England had won the ashes and all our players were given the MBE or OBE or something. The Aussies loved that, a national honour for winning a two horse race, was first class pomposity in their eyes. The local papers printed the score cards with MBE after each of the players names, and , of course, enjoyed giving the poms a good thrashing in the series. I think we deserved that.
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