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Post by newby on Oct 27, 2023 18:19:08 GMT
I enjoyed that though I would have preferred Pakistan to win. Not batting their overs came back to bite them in a tight finish, another 20 runs might have made all the difference.
Interesting last ball by Haris Rauf, sounded like it was bat then pad and was given not out by Umpire Wharf. Pakistan reviewed it anyway, nowhere near the bat and it thumped into the pad right in front of middle. The technology showed less than 50% of the ball, though not a lot less, clipping the off stump so it was adjudged umpires call.
We can't look into the umpires mind of course, but did he give it not out because he thought he heard an edge before the pads, or did he give it not out because he thought it was missing off. Fine margins.
Good crowd, best game so far from what I saw of it.
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Post by davemorton on Oct 27, 2023 21:13:46 GMT
I enjoyed that though I would have preferred Pakistan to win. Not batting their overs came back to bite them in a tight finish, another 20 runs might have made all the difference. Interesting last ball by Haris Rauf, sounded like it was bat then pad and was given not out by Umpire Wharf. Pakistan reviewed it anyway, nowhere near the bat and it thumped into the pad right in front of middle. The technology showed less than 50% of the ball, though not a lot less, clipping the off stump so it was adjudged umpires call. We can't look into the umpires mind of course, but did he give it not out because he thought he heard an edge before the pads, or did he give it not out because he thought it was missing off. Fine margins. Good crowd, best game so far from what I saw of it. That was exactly it, Newby. Wharf gave it not out, because he thought the batsman hit the ball. So did half the Pakistan team, or they would have gone for the review immediately. Then the ball-tracking gave 'umpires call', which actually it wasn't. Wharf never made a judgment on the impact with the stumps, because of the earlier snick...which looked like bat on pad. Van der Dussen was on the other end of umpires call a few overs earlier. Errors made, but the technology has made those errors smaller and less frequent.
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Post by newby on Oct 27, 2023 21:31:48 GMT
It's always the last decision that takes your attention and seems so important because the game hangs on it.
Pakistan did well to get up to 270 after being 5 down for 141. Technology gave Babar out because of an almost imperceptible nick. If he was aware he had nicked it then he's a very good actor, I never noticed it in real time.
Technology, originally meant to protect batters from being given out by umpiring blunders, now mainly used by the bowling side to detect the almost undetectable.
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Post by hawke on Oct 27, 2023 21:49:22 GMT
Gosh! Very very tense finish as requested. I don’t have Sky etc so ‘watched’ on BBC Sport updated and then ball by ball on Cricinfo. I see our man Rauf was involved as was our other man Miller.
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Post by hawke on Oct 27, 2023 21:55:49 GMT
Forgive my ignorance about England but is Baz of Bazball not out there? I just haven’t heard him being quoted. Indeed our leading lights don’t play much 50 over stuff but is that not the same for all others?
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Post by newby on Oct 28, 2023 9:36:04 GMT
Australia have certainly come alive managing to score 388 against New Zealand at Dharamshala. It should be interesting to see if New Zealand can get there. It sounds like a bit of road so they may manage to get close with a bit of luck.
Two games today, Bangladesh v Netherlands, currently 52-2 at Chennai.
Baz of Bazball managed to divest himself of white ball duties on an increased salary pretty soon after being appointed England coach by his mate Rob Key. Luckily he was able to introduce his mate Matthew Mott, to his mate Rob Key who was able to facilitate his appointment to coach the white ball team.
I'm being facetious, of course it was all above board with due diligence in a clear and open way in the best interests of English cricket, probably.
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Post by hawke on Oct 28, 2023 13:39:11 GMT
Serious reply from NZ. They really stuck at it. Another exciting stare at Cricinfo’s ball by ball account I assume Kane W can’t get back in after injury. So NZ are that strong. Another of ours, Starc, made it even more tense.
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Post by newby on Oct 28, 2023 14:48:07 GMT
Yes very exciting for the very good crowd who all seemed to have picked a side to support and got involved.
Kane Williamson did come back from his injury and promptly got hit by a ball thrown in by a fielder that broke a finger. It's such a long tournament you can recover from two injuries and still stand a chance of playing in the knock out stages. He's doing his bit by giving advice while acting as 12th man.
Two losses on the trot by NZ, but it certainly doesn't look like their wheels are falling off.
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Post by newby on Oct 28, 2023 21:51:42 GMT
Which way are England going to go this time in terms of team selection. Will they bring Brydon Carse straight in, they could probably do with a bit of South African grit just now. Will they try the all-rounders again or is it a return to 6/5 batsman bowler ratio.
My team, which I expect to be well wide of the mark.
Bairstow, Buttler, Malan, Root, Stokes, Brook, Livingstone, Willey, Rashid Atkinson, Carse. That's the best I can do and even I'm not convinced.
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Post by tbsteve on Oct 29, 2023 4:24:16 GMT
That would put a lot of pressure on the bowlers Newby - if Livingstone has an off day (or any seamer for that matter), we'd need Root to put in a decent spell.
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Post by newby on Oct 29, 2023 8:20:55 GMT
Well I was wide of the mark. They have gone for the same team as last time.
Bairstow, Malan, Root, Stokes, Buttler, Livingstone, Ali, Woakes, Rashid, Willey, Wood.
Buttler has so much confidence in the batting that he has won the toss and put India in.
India will have to play very badly to win by less than 150 runs I think. But let's see.
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Post by newby on Oct 30, 2023 9:00:27 GMT
Sri Lanka v Afghanistan today in Pune as the competition roles on.
Big game for both teams, the winner will keep their hopes of reaching the knock-out stages alive, the losers not so much.
With England out of the running I suppose the strongest Yorkshire connection is Chris Silverwood the coach of Sri Lanka.
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Post by davemorton on Oct 30, 2023 16:17:53 GMT
Watching today's game, I was reminded of the "What have the Romans ever done for us?" scene in Life of Brian.
Cleese is holding forth to the Judean People's Popular Front, or whatever they're called: "There is not one of us here who would not gladly lay down his life for the cause," he says. He is interrupted by a little voice from the audience. "Actually, there is one."
Likewise, Ian Smith, commenting today on the rise of Afghanistan: "There is not one nation in this World Cup who cannot compete." Actually, there is one, Ian.
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Post by karma on Oct 30, 2023 16:37:32 GMT
Well done Afganistan, pretty comprehensive victory . Suffering a little from cricket World Cup fatigue , rarely watch it on tv , didn't even listen to commentary today.
Instead We decided to go for a walk today in the rain , up through the Valley gardens in Harrogate and into RHS Harlow Carr, fabulous colours ( well I'm colour blind but can recognise the many shades of green and fabulous vista. Wet but enjoyable
Still followed games progress on-line though . At the beginning of this World Cup I said anyone can beat anyone but your last sentence Dave is unfortunately so true and sadly funny.
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Post by newby on Oct 30, 2023 16:50:44 GMT
Just about a perfect chase from Afghanistan, no drama. They seem to have picked up their batting and are well led. They still can't field for toffee though.
They next play against the Netherlands on Friday and if they win that they will be on the same points as Australia, their opponents in the game after that.
Unless there's a big upset of course and Australia can pull off an unlikely win against England next Saturday.
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