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Post by newby on Oct 21, 2023 8:19:18 GMT
Netherlands staging a bit of a recovery against Sri Lanka in the early game. 100+ partnership has got them from 91/6. 209/6 after 43 so 270 is a possibility.
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Post by newby on Oct 21, 2023 21:17:44 GMT
India v New Zealand tomorrow at Dharamsala, somethings got to give.
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Post by hawke on Oct 22, 2023 6:02:33 GMT
oh dear thank goodness for the 9th wicket stand drop the Yorkshire players and have them back in county cricket all season or blame the County Championship, move it to March and October, well that is just a small adjustment
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Post by byased on Oct 22, 2023 7:57:57 GMT
or change the One Day Cup, so that it is not a second eleven competition. Maybe have our own Hundred World Cup and not bother with 50 over cricket at all?
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Post by newby on Oct 22, 2023 17:47:41 GMT
Close(ish) but no cigar for New Zealand as they were beaten with plenty to spare by India today. Fog/mist stopped play at one point in Dharamshala. At least it was natural and not due to air quality issues.
Afghanistan v Pakistan in Chennai tomorrow, that might be fun.
State of play with all teams having played at least 4 of their scheduled 9 games. I'll leave NRR out of it for now.
India played 5 10 points. N Z played 5 8 points. S A played 4 6 points Aus played 4 4 points Pak played 4 4 points Bang played 4 2 points Neths played 4 2 points Sri L played 4 2 points Engl played 4 2 points Afgh played 4 2 points.
I'd still say that India and NZ look certain to make it, but the other 2 places are up for grabs.
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Post by karma on Oct 23, 2023 16:14:52 GMT
Well it looks very probable that Afganistan are going to beat Pakistan.
This shows that their thrashing of England was not a fluke (take what you want from this) but it also means England will be bottom.
Rather than dwell to much on England, I must admit I really admire Afganistan.Just think of the conditions in their country compared to the plush circumstances of others. They really are punching well above their weight. Good luck to them .
(Hope there hasn't been an Afganistan collapse, while I've been singing their praises)
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Post by newby on Oct 23, 2023 18:50:12 GMT
It could have been a game in the Metro Bank 50 over competition the calm way that Afghanistan played low risk cricket. They don't have the depth but they have 7 or 8 very good cricketers in their team and that was more than enough today.
Swings and roundabouts I suppose, it does push us to the bottom of the table as it stands, but it does peg Pakistan back so they remain on 4 points.
South Africa play Bangladesh tomorrow. I don't mind another upset.
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Post by karma on Oct 23, 2023 20:01:20 GMT
Well, the Afganistan win makes England's task much simpler, really. Being bottom kind of clarifies the thought processes. Even our much criticised Captain has stated,
" No room for error for the remainder of the World Cup"
I think he means if you want to be certain of winning the World Cup, just win every game. Pity those instructions were not spelled out earlier or attempted.
I wish them luck, though they don't deserve it.I won't be watching though I'll follow games until it's mathematically impossible for them to stay in the running
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Post by newby on Oct 23, 2023 20:23:28 GMT
It's an International cricket tournament and I find it very interesting, especially at this time of year. I think you are missing out if you just follow the England games.
We do have Sky but I don't watch very much, however I do have it on my device in the kitchen, the car radio and my shed/garden radio all day. It's just escapism, pure and simple until I return to the real world with a jolt as I switch to PM on radio 4 at about 5 or 5.30.
Next week, when the clocks go back I will have an extra hour in the real world. Oh goody.
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Post by karma on Oct 23, 2023 21:25:54 GMT
Couldn't agree more, my emphasis in the darker winter days is slightly more lower league football, particularly on a mid-week Tuesday.
Tomorrow I'll be at Guiseley (they've just taken on new manager Andy Welsh ,I think) They are home to Marine from Crosby ,Liverpool. At the same time ,I'll try to do some circuits of the ground whilst also listening to my home town team,York City ( away at Chesterfield) thanks to my DAB/FM radio I sometimes cheer at the wrong moments but that's the beauty of live sport, to get involved!
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Post by Hit Wicket on Oct 24, 2023 5:20:04 GMT
I'm reliant on the BBC live text updates. I'm still working (just about) but work have recently updated their computers to block any video/audio playback.
I "watched" AFG-PAK and was so worried that even when Afghanistan were 200-odd for 2 I feared a mass-collapse.
On England. I felt apprehensive before the tournament began. Imagined or otherwise something in the pre-tournament buildup seemed off. It reminded me of when my son was purportedly "revising for his A levels".
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Post by tbsteve on Oct 24, 2023 5:45:16 GMT
Personally I think England are getting what they deserved. They've played the fewest ODI games in the last year of any World Cup team, and it shows! Contrast to previous World Cups where the build up made it clear who the best team was, and what tactics to use. This time around, half way through the group stage and I still don't think they know what their best team is. Instead of the Ireland series, we should have been out on the sub-continent acclimatising with a bilateral series.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Oct 24, 2023 6:05:49 GMT
How many other countries went away and invented a new format that they then asked their 50 over squad to go and play in for a made up team with different laws and then block booked August out to play it?
They then crammed in a couple of 50 over series v new Zealand and Ireland but the latter was scheduled for the week before flying to India so they rested the World Cup squad and played a B team.
They then announced a squad, got it wrong, were shown to have got it wrong when a player omitted was the star player in the games they had played and decided to crowbar Stokes back into the team when he had retired from the 50 over format and was patently unfit and needs a long overdue knee operation.
They then picked a 15 man squad for a tournament in India that had 6 fast bowlers so they could rotate them, but no reserve batter once Stokes was unfit for the first 3 or 4 games.
Then they carry around a travelling reserve who hasnt played a meaningful game for over a year and when Topley gets injured and the reserve is a ready made replacement able to step up, has acclimatised to the conditions etc they tell us he is not fit after all so callup a bloke back in Durham where the conditions are hardly similar for any prep he has done.
The preparation in the sub continent was 2 practice games and one was abandoned without a ball being bowled.
Most other teams you could name their starting XI and strongest side beforehand. With England you have no idea of what the 6-11 in the order will look like from one game to the next.
But apart from that....
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Post by karma on Oct 24, 2023 6:09:25 GMT
I think when a team in any sport 'thinks' all it has to do to win, is to turn up, that is the time for a massive change as it's going to end in tears.
To go into such an important competition without a proper fit squad, a clear plan, or a captain with a 'thinking head' and plenty of recent competitive games is unforgiveable and England are getting what they deserve.
I appreciate injuries come along , well don't select players for old times sake unless they have a 100% chance of playing. Appreciate the playing schedule is crowded but having the players turn out in the Hundred as practice is preparation for World Cup defeat. We need a new captain and coach for white ball cricket as well
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Post by newby on Oct 24, 2023 8:23:01 GMT
On the plus side, and there's always a plus side. If Bairstow and Brook continue to be less than impressive in India they might find there are no takers when it comes to the IPL auction. Root I already have down as being at a loose end next April/May.
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