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Post by hawke on Nov 15, 2023 6:58:24 GMT
We also had a mat pitch at university, something like bonded rubber strips, and I recall being hit by a rising ball once when batting. I think that was pitch related.
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Post by hawke on Nov 15, 2023 8:50:05 GMT
If you don't know John Fuller's cricketyorkshire.com website it's time you checked it out. It is an unbelievably thorough guide to grassroots cricket in our county. No aspect of the game is left uncovered, no club is too small. So when I googled 'hybrid cricket pitches', no surprise, CY appeared near the top. I've not read it yet - time for bed! - but I leave it with you. cricketyorkshire.com/hybrid-cricket-pitches/agreed thanks for bringing that excellent site to everyone’s attention
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Post by slowleftarmer on Nov 15, 2023 12:18:00 GMT
He has also written 2 excellent books, "First of the Summer Wine" and "All Wickets Great and Small" - I think these are titles and one of them is exclusively about the Scarborough cricket festival and well worth a read.
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Post by karma on Nov 15, 2023 18:39:22 GMT
First of the Summer Wine (not to be confused with the TV prequel) is one of the best cricket books I've ever read and re-read.
"George Hirst, Schofield Haigh, Wilfred Rhodes and the gentle heart of Yorkshire cricket"
Recommended last year on another Yorkshire Cricket forum by a member.
Best 99p I ever spent downloading this to my Kindle from Amazon. Paper versions are available. Highly recommended!
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Post by davemorton on Nov 16, 2023 10:59:48 GMT
SLA - First of the Summer Wine was written by Harry Pearson, not by John Fuller. I know this because Amazon has just recommended it to me, 'based on your previous purchases'. I might even get it, if I ever finish The Triumphal Arch, which is not a light read!
I think John's second book is called Last of the Summer Wickets, which I'm sure will be as light as a feather. Books can be light or heavy, and equally enjoyable and worthy. I think I would rather read the Beano than War & Peace, but on a desert island....? Still the Beano, I think, with Plug and Gnasher and Lord Snooty.
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Post by newby on Nov 16, 2023 13:40:21 GMT
'Dales, Bails and Cricket club tales' is the title of his new book. It has stories based on a very wide assortment of cricket clubs, mostly in the Dales, but stretching out to Sewerby and Malton.
I'm not great with anthologies usually, I like my books to have a beginning, middle and end, with short stories I rarely get as far as the middle.
As it's Christmas I'll treat myself to it with the wife's money. I'm always told to get my own pressies.
Kindles are something else I can't be doing with.
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Post by karma on Nov 16, 2023 13:56:48 GMT
I love to read a newspaper, love physical books too and used to feel the same way as you newby about Kindles
However since I've had treatment I sleep poorly and the Kindle I have is back-lit allowing me, without putting on a light, to read until I'm sleepy again and most importantly, without disturbing my wife.
It has it's own e-mail address too, which means not only can I carry hundreds of books with me but can also send and store photo's maps, scorecards etc too
I don't like Amazon though and only used them in Lockdown for things I couldn't obtain locally.
PS I meant to add 'Dales, Bails and Cricket Club Tales' is already on my kindle as implied good if you like cricket (which I do) and good if you like the Yorkshire Dales and Yorkshire more generally (which I also certainly do) Interesting background to John Fuller , out of adversity came his website and writings, books
PPS I think this thread has moved away from Rugby , to Playing surfaces, Writers/books . Just shows how fluid is the ideas that evolve or grasshopper minds we have. I think Dave Morton has done enough research to seriously think about doing a PHD in Pitches, grass, plastic, glued, stitched, safe, dangerous! I
I've heard about glued pitches (in cricket) but how exactly does that work, is it illegal , what are the advantages or disadvantages and does it apply solely to cricket?
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Post by byased on Nov 16, 2023 23:06:16 GMT
Just reading about Hawkes painful experiences on artificial surfaces, brought back a painful memory. We toured Guernsey a few times as a club in the late 80s and early 90s, and got quite friendly with them. They organised a tour one year to France, where they were to play two matches against the French national team. They contacted our club to see if we could provide three or four players to strengthen their squad. I was one of four who went. The matches were played in the grounds of a chateau just south of Paris. The French team were largely from Sri Lanka, a few locals, plus David East from Essex. The strip was a very bouncy artificial one, and I got my arm broken fending off a ball from a very nippy Sri Lankan. Give me a grass wicket any day.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Nov 17, 2023 11:59:01 GMT
thanks for the correction Dave. This is the problem when the 2 authors try and come up with a play on words linking to Yorkshire!
Last of the Summer Wine on TV becomes First of the Summer Wine (Harry Pearson) and Last of the Summer Wickets (John Fuller)
I await the next book titled Last of the Winter Wine....
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Post by davemorton on Nov 17, 2023 14:17:19 GMT
Another play on the same phrase was Kenny Shovel's Last of the Summer Whine website/blog/whatever, which featured "Len the Legendary Kitman", who revealed secrets of the Yorkshire dressing room, and "The Diary of Tim Bresnan (IQ 140)," or something similar. He also wrote reports on T20 matches in exactly 20 words. Kenny latest website is more informative and very useful, but less fun...and features my photographs. countycrickethub.net/If I could get a degree on cricket pitches by sitting for a couple of hours at my Desktop...I hadn't realised how completely our education system had dumbed down. I took my GCE O Levels in 1958, for which I had to study Latin (which actually I enjoyed), and the Maths included Euclidean Geometry which was, frankly, bloody hard, even for a decent mathematician. Fortunately, A Level double maths was easier. My teacher was Jim Brear, from Halifax and with a broad Yorkshire accent, who had a First from Trinity College, Cambridge, and had played Minor Counties cricket for Staffordshire, including a game against the young FS Trueman. "Quick, very quick," was Jim's answer to our question, which was almost a speech, coming from him. I can still prove Pythagoras' Theorem, the traditional way, and I must be one of few living who can work out square roots by the old method, akin to long division, but a lot more complex.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Nov 20, 2023 7:54:17 GMT
so you will probably understand me when I say SOHCAHTOA then!
No its not a volcano in South America or the Fijian opening bowler....
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Post by davemorton on Nov 20, 2023 14:46:14 GMT
Why do people produce mnemonics which are harder to remember than the thing they are supposed to help you remember?
There was BODMAS, which I managed to get through to degree level without having heard of, until I was asked what it meant by the parent of a little kid who couldn't do maths.
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Post by newby on Nov 20, 2023 22:59:12 GMT
Total duffer at maths unfortunately, I think I got away with it largely, though I missed my first choice of career when I failed the maths/sums part of a test paper to join the North Eastern Gas Board as a fitter at 15. Probably a lucky escape for me and the customers.
BODMAS I always clung to as gospel. I see some Countries use PEDMAS instead while others PEMDAS, P standing for the rather posher Parenthesis, and E for exponents. I'm still on shaky ground here but am I to believe I could have gone with BOMDAS and still got the same results!
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Post by davemorton on Nov 21, 2023 0:37:27 GMT
Well yes, exponents were excluded from BODMAS, so it was useless, as well as confusing. Do 3 + 4 x 5 on an ordinary calculator and you get 35, on a 'scientific' one you get 23. I suppose these things are all on apps, nowadays, and those who can't do maths will get wrong answers, still. I was more slide-rule, myself, which wouldn't add or subtract at all. I've still got the Faber-Castell one I was bought for my 18th birthday. People who can do maths, do arithmetic effortlessly. The reverse is not always true. I know people who are very good at even mental arithmetic, who know nothing of mathematics. I usually visit this YouTube channel for my maths pleasure: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWvKKdvtD_YI did, and still do, maths for the same reason I played cricket and read books. I find it fun. I felt sorry for those who were compelled to do it when they hated it...as I did for those forced to play games.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Nov 21, 2023 8:26:09 GMT
The best way to practice maths in my school days was to score for the local cricket club and work out the averages at the end of each game. I recall one 2nd team bowler being keen to see if his average had come down and then apoplectic that what he thought were byes had been given as runs against him!
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