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Post by hawke on Dec 10, 2023 12:34:35 GMT
successful day for beleaguered Sheffielders. Wednesday, United and Sheffield FC all won!
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Post by karma on Dec 10, 2023 13:32:35 GMT
Really pleased for all the Sheffield teams . When Wednesday were bottom I decided to 'follow them' more closely, I like an underdog. Since then they've won 2 out of two. I'd like to think the change in results is down to my support but I know this isn't true from following my original home town club.
I had a busy ,non-sport-related day yesterday so only now am able to analyse yesterday's Championship results in detail, thanks to the 'Sunday's'. Yep, the top three teams actually won but most of the rest of the teams in top 2/3rd's of that division lost or drew . My current home town club, Leeds United, had a good win did the 1st and 2nd teams. Importantly Leeds are not falling away while those below didn't catch up. Eventually someone's form and results will begin to falter and I hope Leeds can stay the course as the season has an awful long way to go.
Scarborough did suffer a heavy defeat away yesterday, perhaps they took their 'eye off the ball' as they have a suddenly reinstated and announced FA Cup reply on Tuesday evening to FGR. Maybe team selection was influenced by this and performance too - a win on Tuesday leads to another big game at Blackpool .It looks increasingly unlikely I will be able to get to Tuesday's game and being biased I wish Scarborough every success at a potential sell-out game because it's good for the club and the town.
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Post by newby on Dec 12, 2023 9:12:04 GMT
Moving further afield to football in other countries, I thought things had come to a sorry pass when I heard that top flight football in Greece has been forced to play behind closed doors for two months because of growing crowd violence, including a number of deaths.
Not to be outdone Turkish top flight football has been suspended altogether, mainly due to the president of one club leading a pitch invasion and punching and kicking the referee who had given a 97th minute equaliser to the opposition.
I hope it's all peaceful at the Scarborough v FGR replay tonight or I'm not going.
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Post by karma on Dec 12, 2023 10:24:49 GMT
Indeed, it seems to be more trouble from managers and officials than players nowadays. Oh and I hope tonight's game at Scarborough is a good one , no trouble and the right result. I was hoping to go but my wife talked me out of it "do you think at your age and condition etc etc .... and you'd either have to stay overnight or you'd be back after midnight" She's right of course. Pity. I am instead going to watch Farsley at home to Curzon Ashton, just printing my ticket now- I tend to buy a ticket on-line even though there's plenty of room because if the weather changes, I'll still go and enjoy it rather than watch TV in front of the fire. Besides I want to see ex-York City and more recently ex-Scarbourough player Michael Coulson make his debut for Farsley I'm hoping for these two games to be home wins!
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Post by byased on Dec 12, 2023 10:47:10 GMT
Have a good evening at Farsley and Scarborough respectivley. I will be watching the Baggies on TV at Rotherham, and keeping an eye on the Scarborough match. Managers have a lot to answer for in my opinion. They instruct their players to cheat, dive for penalties etc, then blame referees when one goes against them. They all need to clean up their act, but it won't happen. Interesting events in Türkiye (my spell check now flags up Turkey as incorrect). I am all for players jumping into the crowd and attacking abusive moronic spectators, Eric Cantona style, but attacking referees is another matter. Officials should go on strike, and then the managers and presidents of clubs would have to think of how to make money with no games being played.
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Post by davemorton on Dec 12, 2023 17:02:37 GMT
I was going to post about the incident in Turkey. No spell-check problem, and I prefer pork for my Christmas meal, and always have.
I was 100% behind Cantona for his kick (more a push with boots) on the yob, and yes, strike action is the answer, if the refs could only get organised. In rugby, I remember a club making remarks about a ref in the local paper, and simply being told there would be no more referees for them for the next fortnight, any of their teams, 2nd XV, Colts, whatever. The referees appointed were simply reassigned.
Even in rugby, I don't think anyone would have the balls to do that anymore, but the Manchester & District Society had a President called Brian Leigh, and he would have fought anyone.
"We've already sold the tickets." "Your problem. Refund them. We don't care."
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Post by donnylad on Dec 12, 2023 21:45:14 GMT
I remember ... more years ago than I want to admit ... playing one of my first games at the local club after moving to the area.
In the dressing room before the game the skipper said something along the lines of 'Society Ref today lads, behave yourselves'. The very words Society Ref put the wind up all of us. 'Sir' took on a new meaning ... and as skipper John said "... and just because you know how to referee don't start telling this bloke what to do".
Moi?? Just because I had pointed out ever so nicely to a previous (non Society) referee that it was customary to ensure that Jessica and her friends observed the offside law at lineouts.
Still John didn't have to worry we won, I was nice and said 'Thank you sir' after the game.
I wonder ... not so much in the top level leagues but lower down, in the 3rds and 4ths and the extra B XV do they still say 'Sir'?
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Post by karma on Dec 12, 2023 22:19:44 GMT
I don't know for sure but I don't think anyone would say 'sir' unless it was to a policeman having being stopped for speeding or some othe missdameanour.
Hard luck Scarborough but well played (I listened to the game as I watched Farsley at home) The Seadogs dominated the first half but as the game went on it seemed to me as though full-time FGR's fitness and skill levels began to tell. Well played, another full house.
Well played West Brom too, I'll read the game report tomorrow as I will for a Leeds who lost away at Sunderland
In fact there was a Sunderland supporter sat next to me and who didn't want to know the score as he'd watch the highlights later - we had a good laugh about the 'Likely Lads' sketch. Someone mischievously shouted out Sunderland were getting beaten 0 - 3 .
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Post by newby on Dec 12, 2023 23:09:12 GMT
Disappointing all round tonight. As you say Karma Scarborough were probably the better side for 30 minutes but a convincing and deserved win for FGR. Funny subdued atmosphere I thought but I haven't been for a while.
Leeds lost as well, deep gloom.
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Post by hawke on Dec 13, 2023 11:04:42 GMT
Disappointing all round tonight. As you say Karma Scarborough were probably the better side for 30 minutes but a convincing and deserved win for FGR. Funny subdued atmosphere I thought but I haven't been for a while. Leeds lost as well, deep gloom. Yes it’s down as Graves v Ashley. Well at least has been involved in cricket and has a vested interest in his loan. On the other hand he helped implement The Hundreds and Thousands.
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Post by karma on Dec 15, 2023 17:48:59 GMT
I read today the announcement from the National League, that York City's Football match at Boreham Wood on Saturday 6th January 2014 has just been re-scheduled to the following day, Sunday 7th at 2:00 and will be broadcast by TNT (the former BT Sports) . Within the announcement it was stated that "TNT had delivered an early Christmas present for supporters"
The York City Supporters Trust has issued an open letter expressing their "collective concern and disappointment" in the decision to reschedule the fixture on such short notice. They say that the decision will place a "financial burden over the festive period, on the financial constraints of city's supporters, and have requested that a solution be found to offer free transport or reimburse fans who have already booked their trip and accommodation to Hertfordshire"
The supporters Trust also says it believes the number of supporters travelling will reduce and "whilst acknowledging the importance of television coverage for the growth of our league", goes on to say, "the three week notice period is insufficient for fans" - many will have booked both transport and accommodation
Far from being an early Christmas present , this has turned into 'The nightmare of Meadow Park'
I've commented elsewhere on this forum that one of the reasons I won't subscribe to Sky or TNT sports is that the organisation take over the game and as an example coerces the referee (or umpire) as to the suitability of a pitch for play to proceed. A couple of weeks ago we had a (BBC) FA Cup broadcast called off at the scheduled kick-off time when the ground was full of home and away supporters. Ridiculous and no thought for supporters and fans.
Moving games around in this way just strengthens my resolve not to give them my money. I often say there is no conflict between making a profit and providing a good service, the two should go hand in hand. In moving this game they are not doing the latter for supporters. I think a couple of years ago Leeds United threatened legal action over the disproportionate number of its game chosen for broadcast and re-scheduling.
I'm never sure which is the most appropriate phrase , either 'he who pays the piper, calls the tune'. or 'if you lay down with dogs, you get fleas'
Back to more 'mundane' but exciting live sport tomorrow Guiseley v Hyde.
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Post by newby on Dec 15, 2023 20:55:18 GMT
I only saw the 2nd half but I really enjoyed watching the FA Youth Cup game between Norwich and Leeds Utd early this evening. I normally watch the Championship game on Friday but there isn't on today.
Some excellent young players who really seemed to be enjoying every minute of it. Looked to be a few thousand perhaps in the crowd and the coverage on LUTV was excellent.
Leeds United won 2-0 which was also excellent. They next play Brighton in the last 32.
Strange scheduling with teams playing over an extended period, each round taking a couple of weeks to sort out.
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Post by karma on Dec 16, 2023 14:08:53 GMT
Leeds United have had yet another game's date and kick off time change to feed tv.
Instead of visiting Bristol City at 3:00 on Saturday 3rd of February it has been brought forward to Friday 2nd at 8:00. In this case on Sky.
Assuming any fans who have booked rail tickets can get a refund ( which is unlikely) it would be difficult to get a train back late on Frday night assuming they don't work on that day. Bound to be less Leeds fans there. Again not serving the needs of regular supporters.
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Post by hawke on Dec 16, 2023 20:23:06 GMT
Huge financial problems in the Northern League with Marske Utd of the North Riding and North Shields of Northumberland both threatened with closure. Marske day they need a staggering £120,000 to see them through the season and North Shields have just lost all their players. Middlesbrough fans have raised some money for Marske but there is so much more still needed. Cant Newcastle Utd help North Shields??
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Post by newby on Dec 16, 2023 21:10:33 GMT
You would hope Newcastle can spare some of their 'Saudi money' to help out a neighbour.
Leeds United today held to a draw by Coventry. They seem to get so many chances but they often end up over playing it and the chances go begging. Luckily Ipswich were held to a draw too so they haven't lost any ground against the team in second.
Good old Wednesday won again and just as importantly, the three teams just above them seem to be waiting for them to catch up.
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