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Post by karma on Dec 1, 2023 1:31:40 GMT
York city had a man red-carded in last Saturday's game at Maidenhead and had to play for over 80 minutes with only ten men. The York manager was also booked for querying the decision. York had a backs-to-the-wall game, conceded a goal after 71 minutes but still battled to get a 1 - 1 draw.
Today the red-card decision was rescinded upon appeal so we have our player available for today's FA Cup game . We won't get the 80 minutes back without the player though, just have to suck it up when you're struggling towards the bottom of the division. I think the manager's booking still stands for querying a decision, which was patently wrong from the You-Tube vid I've seen.
I do appreciate a referee will make their best decision at the time.
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Post by newby on Dec 2, 2023 12:10:22 GMT
Watched the York v Wigan game on TV. York were well organised but Wigan had the class player who made the difference. Good effort though in very foggy and I imagine very cold conditions.
I see that the Blackpool v Forest Green Rovers 2nd round game has been called off by the FA due to a possible player irregularity by FGR in the previous round. Don't know if this will get Scarborough back in the competition but it's a possibility. Their game at Spennymoor this afternoon is one of many called off due to a frozen pitch.
Considering the merits of staying in the warm or wrapping up well and going for a brisk walk, touch and go at the moment.
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Post by karma on Dec 2, 2023 12:32:51 GMT
Yes I watched the York game too, tremendous atmosphere and crowd. The fog cleared pretty well to see from the stands and Wigan were the fitter, stronger and more skilful team. Good goal took York out of the competition but York didn't disgrace themselves. I am biased and I thought it was a 'nailed-on' penalty for a Wigan handball. Still as we often say, time to concentrate on York's less-than-ideal league position.
The weather has taken it's toll of games today, managed to get out first thing to Horsforth's Farmer's market, a good walk and coffee. (The walk is always a must) Had planned on live game of Guiseley v Radcliffe (called off due to frozen pitch) and although I rarely watch televised sport I had just sat down to watch BBC's FA Cup live broadcast (12:30) , Alfreton v Walsall but just heard called off with seconds to go!
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Post by karma on Dec 2, 2023 13:27:35 GMT
As far as Forrest Green Rovers is concerned the precedence (Barnsley) is pretty clear in that if an illegible player has been used in the earlier round (to beat Scarborough) then FGR are ejected from the competition and the round awarded to Scarborough. Time flies though (said the man who through the clock across the room) and it could become a logistical nightmare to fit things in and without penalising Scarborough or Blackpool.
Of course a few maybes, ifs and buts before we know what's happening. Still I'd personally be pleased if Scarborough get extra game(s) and extra financial benefits that go with that ( and which might be used to support their bid for promotion to the National League)
And I would also have some sympathy for FGR and their supporters.
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Post by karma on Dec 3, 2023 0:16:05 GMT
I mentioned a couple of days ago how with televised games the pitch inspection is left until the last possible minute and is unfair to fans home and away. So it proved on Saturday with Alfreton and Walsall supporters already in the ground when called off at kick-off time. The power of TV companies is sometimes a total dis-service to supporters.
So Saturday a depleted fixture list largely due to frozen pitches left me without a game to attend though, still plenty of action and games to listen to, including Leeds United v Middlesborough. Leeds went a goal down after only 3 minutes, but equalised 2 minutes later and then took the the lead 4 minutes after that. A goal each before half time made it 3 -2 and so it stayed until full time with a sending off of Middlesborough's Dijksteel (?) for 2 yellow cards making Leeds task easier but not always comfortable.
Just as well for Leeds that they won as the other results all didn't go in their way .This included West Brom v Leicester with the Baggies scoring an equaliser in the 89th minute and looking like a draw. Leicester scored the winner though in the 4th minute of injury time to keep up their strong position at the top of the league. The Baggies were also in the news for borrowing 'several million more pounds' @ 13%pa interest!!!! 'to keep the club going' and in addition to the £20mill they borrowed a year ago. The current owner is trying to secure a takeover!
Sheffield Wednesday dented Blackburn's play-off hopes by securing only their second season's win (3 - 1) giving themselves some hope of at least moving off the table bottom . I've a soft spot for Wednesday and find the Championship much more interesting than the premiership with both promotion and relegation up for grabs.
I've no interest in the Premiership where at all where the spoils seem shared between a very few clubs each season
Scarborough didn't play (frozen pitch) but they might still be in the FA Cup as mentioned (away to Blackpool if FGR are thrown out for fielding an illegible player. Harrogate went out 5 -1 to Bolton in the FA Cup
Oh, late edit and connection with three teams I follow. One of my favourite players of recent years, Michael Coulson, formerly of York City and Scarborough has left the Seadogs at the age of 35, for the club nearest to where I live, Farsley Celtic and whom I try to see on a regular basis. Pleased for Michael, Farsley and particularly me.
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Post by newby on Dec 3, 2023 11:59:45 GMT
I can only presume that the FA have shut down for the weekend as there is still no news regarding FGR and Scarborough.
Good win for Leeds but I was hoping West Brom might beat Leicester. I watched the first half and though West Brom looked very good. It's looking like it's going to take a season long effort and lot of points to get automatic promotion this year.
Good win for Wednesday, and suddenly it doesn't look so impossible to reach safety.
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Post by karma on Dec 5, 2023 9:16:02 GMT
Still no news about FGR even on their own website , the investigation continues .
There is news about the next TV deal with the Premier League which is going to cost £6.7Billion for the 4 years until 2029. It will cover all the Premier league games not being played at 3:00. The example quoted was that if there are 10 games on Boxing day @2:00 all 10 games will be shown live! The winners of the tender were Sky and TNT (formerly BT Sports)only. Nobody else for Live transmission though the BBC will still be able to show highlights on 'Match of the Day.
A Sky reporter said, " The Premier League Teams will be able to plan their transfers knowing how much they'll have to spend "
This is why I don't have Sky TV, it just pushes up the astronomical amounts paid for transfers, the obscene amounts paid to some players and the high admission prices (and other costs) supporters have to pay.
It also puts extreme financial pressure on lower league clubs as the costs filter down but not the commensurate levels of finance.
Not exactly the same thing but there are parallels with the introduction of the Hundred, increased franchises and the increased indebtedness of some clubs. And players openly moving counties for more money and not convincingly (at least to me) making a point that it's a career advancement move. Daren Gough has said more than once that our playing budget (or lack of one) has made it difficult to recruit players. There are other extenuating circumstances for our financial malaise, not all due to the actions of out previous Chair however.
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Post by newby on Dec 5, 2023 17:22:03 GMT
I suppose it having taken so long, still no news, for the FA to decide whether their own rules have been broken speaks volumes for the complexity of the rules.
I could be wrong but from the few scant hints I've seen it revolves around the Bristol Rovers goalkeeper James Belshaw, who FGR signed on an emergency 7 day loan agreement in September.
Short term loan deals have been stamped on in football, to stop teams circumventing the transfer window, but, there is a special provision for goalkeepers, if you have lost your own to injury and have no competent reserve.
Looks like a right can of worms to me.
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Post by byased on Dec 6, 2023 21:33:30 GMT
strange outcome in that the replay is to be replayed. FGR have admitted fielding an ineligible player. Barnsley were kicked out for the same offence. I have half a foot in each camp so am not "biased" in any way. Just seems a bit of typical FA fudging of the issue.
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Post by newby on Dec 6, 2023 22:02:35 GMT
It does sound like a nonsense and Barnsley won't be very happy about the double standards.
I can only assume that the ineligible player that FGR used had not already played in this seasons FA Cup for another team, which the Barnsley player clearly had.
It took a long time to sort it out, I hope Scarborough can take advantage of their second, sorry third chance.
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Post by byased on Dec 6, 2023 22:52:37 GMT
Scarborough will probably be out of pocket if they lose. Another long journey in midweek, players having to miss work. Attendances at FGR only around 3000, so receipts will not be high, and so their share will not be great. If they win they get a good pay-out from the FA for being second round winners ,but having lost the first replay 5-2, that is probably unlikely.
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Post by byased on Dec 6, 2023 23:02:13 GMT
It seems the ineligible player was involved in the first game, not the replay and so the replayed match is at Scarborough, which makes it a lot fairer all round. Match to be settled on the night, no replay in the event of a draw, which again seems fair.
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Post by karma on Dec 7, 2023 9:56:44 GMT
Difficult to know exactly what the right punishment or sanction would be but on balance perhaps the FA have got it right. Perhaps another glory game for Scarborough largely in front of their own supporters.
I'm tempted to see if I can go though I don't want to deprive a more regular Scarborough supporter of a place on the terraces. FA Cup is live sport at it's best, particularly in this case as there'd be no replay. I'm ashamedly behind the Seadogs.
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Post by newby on Dec 7, 2023 10:50:40 GMT
I'm not a regular but I'll check with one I know how tickets are selling at the weekend. I don't want to deprive anyone of a place if it's a sell out but wouldn't mind going for a change to help the cause if it isn't.
It would be nice to have exactly what went on explained and the reason why the FA came to their decision. It obviously wasn't a straight forward decision.
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Post by newby on Dec 9, 2023 17:45:49 GMT
Leeds United won which is nice but so too did Leicester and Ipswich so we still can't break into the top two. Just got to keep winning I suppose and one team or another will crack at some stage.
Good day for Sheffield with both clubs winning, Wednesday even moved off the bottom of the table at the expense of Rotherham.
Quite a few local games off due to waterlogged pitches.
Scarborough got a hammering at Warrington, I didn't know they had round balls over there. Not good preparation for the reply against FGR next week. FGR themselves had a waterlogged pitch so should be fresh for Tuesday.
I heard an explanation of why the different decisions were made by the FA. It seems Barnsley's was a straight forward ineligible player under rule 103, while FGR played someone who was on loan for league games, but failed to get the permission of the club he belonged to to play him in the FA Cup under rule 109. I can sleep nights now I understand that.
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