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Post by karma on Dec 16, 2023 21:20:03 GMT
Sorry to hear about the financial position of these clubs Hawke and which I would describe as 'family' clubs, where they are run largely by volunteers . I went to Farsley on Tuesday evening (2 - 1 win) to move up the table and today dropped down a league to see Guiseley v Hyde (2 - 2 today), only a point separates these two pretty high up the league and Marske are in the same division but lower down.
Today Guiseley were selling mulled wine and a mince pie, I think for £2:50 though I didn't partake having had my guilty pleasure of chips which I tend only to eat at football matches. I did buy a programme and a lottery ticket but it takes a lot of purchases to keep teams solvent.
Even with part-time players, typical crowds are in the low hundreds so finance is always a problem. I remember when teams could only play behind closed doors(Covid) and Guiseley had 'crowdfunding' to finance the £800 minimum per game to keep the club going.
They have a 'Raise the Roof' fund and where the proceeds will eventually put a roof over, I think, the 'Railway' end
Guiseley have also recently received council planning approval to install an artificial pitch to replace the turf. This has the advantage of permitting use 7 days of the week and should provide a steady stream of income from a variety of users when installed next year.
I must admit I generally prefer watching live lower league football but these clubs have a constant financial battle.
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Post by karma on Dec 16, 2023 21:37:21 GMT
You would hope Newcastle can spare some of their 'Saudi money' to help out a neighbour. Leeds United today held to a draw by Coventry. They seem to get so many chances but they often end up over playing it and the chances go begging. Luckily Ipswich were held to a draw too so they haven't lost any ground against the team in second. Good old Wednesday won again and just as importantly, the three teams just above them seem to be waiting for them to catch up. I hope Newcastle can help too it'd be ' a drop in the ocean' of their finances. I listened to some of the Leeds game (while watching Guiseley) and thought it was only a matter of time that their dominance would be turned into victory. As you say,Newby, Ipswich didn't win either so perhaps not too much damage. And Sheffield Wednesday! I'd like to think their unbeaten run is the result of my 'following' them . But still 2 goals (after 86 and 94 minutes)indicates a team fighting for its future. I read this week that their improved form and results have put pressure on for a larger 'New Years' transfers fund now that they no longer seem a lost cause.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Dec 18, 2023 13:36:38 GMT
perhaps if everyone paid their players less and what they could afford then they may not have as much financial trouble - at all levels?
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Post by newby on Dec 19, 2023 18:07:52 GMT
Notts Forest have finally blinked and sacked their manager Steve Cooper. I suppose they should be applauded for sticking with him for so long but they finally let him go today.
Former Wolves manager Nuno Espirito Santo looks the man most likely to succeed him.
One less English manager in the top flight, though it is balanced by Michael Beale taking over the vacancy at Sunderland.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Dec 20, 2023 11:13:59 GMT
Sunderland are not in the top flight!
the big news last night was surely the advancement of one Yorkshire based team to the Cup semi final as Middlesbrough romped to a 3-0 away win, overshadowed by Newcastle losing to chelsea, Man City winning against a Japanese team, Fulham winning a penalty shoot out and Mary Earps winning SPOTY despite leaving the top half of her outfit at home somewhere
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Post by karma on Dec 20, 2023 12:41:35 GMT
Sunderland are not in the top flight! the big news last night was surely the advancement of one Yorkshire based team to the Cup semi final as Middlesbrough romped to a 3-0 away win, overshadowed by Newcastle losing to chelsea, Man City winning against a Japanese team, Fulham winning a penalty shoot out and Mary Earps winning SPOTY despite leaving the top half of her outfit at home somewhere Well done Middlesborough , I noticed that too . A win is a win ( even if it was port Vale) I regard top flight as premier division sorry League . I must admit I'm in a bit of a dilemma in that I've very little interest in the Premier League largely because it's full of over paid players with obscene transfer fees and managers waiting to be sacked so that they can bank another multimillion pound pay-off. A recent TV deal for £6.75billion is just ridiculous as the inflationary trends work their way down to lower league football but very little of the money. My dilemma is that I want Leeds United to succeed and gain promotion to the Premier League as that will be good for the city of Leeds and hard-pressed supporters. But then I'll switch off following them , because it's premier League Looking forward to Farsley Celtic's National League North home game v Scarborough on Sat 13th January
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Post by newby on Dec 20, 2023 19:23:16 GMT
Well done to Boro last night, it would be nice to have a different winner for a change instead of one of the usual suspects, though Chelsea and possibly Liverpool stand in the way at the semi-final stage.
The swine who knocked Scarborough out of the FA cup fell foul of the seaside mafia at Blackpool yesterday. (Kidding FGR fan).
I'm sure if you come from Sunderland you consider them a top flight club, though I was referring more to them taking on an English manager, a little bit against the trend in the top two divisions.
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Post by karma on Dec 23, 2023 14:34:29 GMT
Early kick-off for Leeds United and comprehensive win over Ipswich to close the gap on the top two. 'Top-two place' for Leeds must be a target for automatic promotion.
Still a long way to go of course but a happy Christmas at Elland Road
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Post by donnylad on Dec 23, 2023 15:01:18 GMT
Jingle Bells, jingle bells, 8 - 3 on aggregate. Foxes v Ipswich on Boxing Day One point each I say.
Leeds have taken 9 points out of 9 against the two clubs who are 7 points clear. Roll on February at the Crisp packet stadium.
(PS I just wish Rovers could hold on to a lead and then we might rise above the bottom third of division 2.)
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Post by newby on Dec 23, 2023 17:06:09 GMT
I can only assume Ipswich had a very bad day today because they were extremely poor all game and deserved nothing. I'm certainly hopeful we can catch them over the next few months.
Another hopeful sign is that both Leicester and Ipswich rely quite a lot on players of African origin. African Cup of nations coming up and both teams might find life more difficult without some important players.
Unfortunately Sheffield Wednesday seem to have thrown away an early lead and their good run looks like ending against Cardiff City.
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Post by newby on Dec 29, 2023 18:27:09 GMT
Another niggling little annoyance recently dreamt up by Sky is to delay the kick-off of a televised evening game until 20:15.
Little thought to the spectators who find it difficult enough getting home after a 20:00 kick off.
Leeds United again tonight, surely they can spread the Championship coverage a little wider.
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Post by karma on Dec 29, 2023 20:20:10 GMT
Couldn't agree more . Think this game was brought forward one day. For supporters who had already bought their accomadation and train ticket, tough.
Doubt they'll be able to get home tonight after such a late kick-off. It's wrong on so many levels.
Oh it's for tv scheduling, we'll that makes it alright then
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Post by byased on Dec 30, 2023 9:51:56 GMT
I think the thought was that surely Leeds would score by ten o clock, so maybe 9.15 kick off next time? Sorry chaps, Happy New Year and all that. Actually clubs like Leeds and the Baggies rely so much on TV income, gate receipts and therefore the fans, are of minor importance when it comes to finances and keeping the club afloat. It will only get worse the more TV people watch. Most sports probably the same in terms of reliance on TV income.
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Post by newby on Dec 30, 2023 10:16:35 GMT
I'd quite frankly prefer Leeds United were never on TV. I know it's my one-eyed view but teams seem to step up and play better when the TV cameras are in town.
I also hate this period when there are so many games, 4 in 9 days is too much. Same for everyone I suppose, and don't get me started on the standard of refereeing in the Championship.
Anyway it's an interesting season, Leicester are a cut above and running away with it but I've a feeling Ipswich will get dragged back to keep everyone in with a shout of avoiding the dreaded play-offs.
Well done to the Baggies and good to see Wednesday back with a win.
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Post by byased on Dec 30, 2023 11:18:20 GMT
Yes, I think Ipswich will falter, Southampton look the likely ones to take second spot. Happy if we make play offs and maybe a day at Wembley, but not that fussed about going up, other than it will help the finances. Thought the referee was very good last night!
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