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Post by newby on Apr 6, 2024 9:54:51 GMT
I'll try and keep a tally for Division 2 for as long as it's an issue or of any possible interest.
Day 3
Derbyshire overs lost 288
Gloucestershire 288
Northants 89
Sussex 89
Yorkshire 174
Leicestershire 174
Middlesex 0
Glamorgan 0
Bad light accounted for 4 overs at the end of day 2 for Yorkshire/Leicestershire and a good number of overs in Northants/Sussex game.
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Post by newby on Apr 8, 2024 18:50:21 GMT
So, after the first round of matches we have joint leaders of course.
384 overs or 100% of overs lost to rain by Derbyshire and Gloucestershire.
235 overs or 61% of overs lost to rain/bad light by Yorkshire and Leicestershire.
109 overs or 28% of overs lost to rain/bad light by Sussex and Northants.
0 overs lost to rain or bad light by Glamorgan and Middlesex, who shook hands with 12 overs left to play.
728 overs lost over the 4 games in round 1. Here's hoping it's an improving story from here on in.
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Post by karma on Apr 9, 2024 9:22:09 GMT
I think there's a pattern of lost overs to weather 🌧 🌧 🌦 :
The further north or west) the more rain and lost overs.
I would suggest some weighting' on points as part of levelling up for us up north. Hang on hasn't a political party already promoted that idea instead of implementing it?
Still.
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Post by hawke on Apr 9, 2024 9:33:42 GMT
I think there's a pattern of lost overs to weather 🌧 🌧 🌦 : The further north or west) the more rain and lost overs. I would suggest some weighting' on points as part of levelling up for us up north. Hang on hasn't a political party already promoted that idea instead of implementing it? Still. makes you wonder if we are continually forced into April and late Sept CC fixtures, whether they should try their best to arrange as many as possible in the south/southeast/se midlands |
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Post by newby on Apr 9, 2024 10:13:43 GMT
If you throw in the First Division including Chester-le-Street and Old Trafford it's probably even more apparent.
Touching wood by the time our next two games, in the Southwest and South are over, we might have had some drying time up North. My boots are still getting disgustingly filthy wherever I wander.
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Post by newby on Apr 12, 2024 18:52:12 GMT
Even with a late start at Glamorgan there were no overs lost to the weather today in either division. I hope it remains so, it will make my sums so much easier at the end of the round.
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Post by karma on Apr 13, 2024 12:12:25 GMT
Not exactly the same thing . A couple of weeks ago talking to the groundsman at Roberts Park adjacent to Salts Mill. The ground (and park) looked lovely and he said, "hopefully we're ready for the season start on 20th April" (That's a week today)
I understand that all four Premier Leagues in Yorkshire have now delayed the season's start due to the wet weather. In many cases clubs have not been able to get equipment onto the outfield or even cut or roll the squares.
The Huddersfield League, who are moving towards Premier League status and the Airedale and Wharfedale League have also called off matches for 20th April.
I have even more sympathy for Headingley's groundsman and crews everwhere plus umpires too. I was hoping last year's washout of several games was a bit of a 'one-off' but this is pretty dire and although I'm looking forward to Scarborough this year, I'll be better prepared.
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Post by newby on Apr 15, 2024 22:08:21 GMT
No play on the final day of the Leicestershire v Sussex and Northants v Middlesex games due to rain, takes out 96 overs or 25% which is a significant loss. Sussex probably robbed of the chance of a win. No chance of a result in the game at Lords.
Glamorgan v Derbyshire I estimate lost 20 overs, and our game at Gloucester 15 overs, neither really significant in the context of the results, or perhaps they were, you can argue it either way.
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Post by newby on Apr 16, 2024 9:45:22 GMT
More problems for local cricket with the continued wet weather I was reading.
I can't remember the full details but the Heavy Woollen Cup first round looks likely to be badly affected. Due to be held on the 21st of April the teams have been given an extra week to either, play the games as planned, move grounds if that will help, play the game as a T20, arrange a bowl-out, or as a last resort Toss-up for the win.
Nobody really wants the last two options I'm sure. It blooming cold wet and windy again here today, hope it's better in West Yorkshire.
(Edit) found the article again:
We are all aware the recent weather conditions have been testing to say the least. As many leagues have now delayed the start of the season we have decided the following in relation to first round fixtures:
You may still play on 21 April if you believe the ground will be fit to safely do so.
If this is not possible you should re arrange for 28th April.
If for any reason it is not possible to play on the 28th April then you should play a T20 game one evening of the week commencing 29 April.
Failing this you should arrange a bowl out
As a last resort the tie should be decided by the toss of a coin.
Clubs should consider reversing venues if this means a game can be played.
The home club should notify the competition secretary by email of any re arranged date.
All results should be submitted on play cricket immediately a result is obtained.
As the second round is on 5th May and it is not possible to delay this due to individual leagues own competition we have to have our first round ties decided by 3 May.
We know this is not ideal but cannot be helped. We ask that all clubs do their best to work together to get these ties arranged and decided.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Apr 16, 2024 11:28:32 GMT
you cannot just reverse a fixture as most clubs have a 2nd team who play at home when the 1st team play away from home.
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Post by newby on Apr 29, 2024 19:45:55 GMT
We can't realistically start the season any later than the first of May so I'll stop counting now.
League table for overs lost to rain and bad light for Division 2 clubs during CC cricket in April 2024:
1. Derbyshire lost 661 overs out of the 1536 overs available = 43%
2. Leicestershire lost 615 overs out of the 1536 overs available = 40%
3. Northants lost 474 overs out of the 1536 overs available = 31%
4. Gloucestershire lost 450 overs out of 1536 overs available = 29%
5. Yorkshire lost 398 overs out of 1536 overs available = 26%
6. Sussex lost 205 overs out of 1152 overs available = 18%
7. Middlesex lost 200 overs out of 1536 overs available = 13%
8. Glamorgan lost 137 overs out of 1152 overs available = 12%
I might do it again in September but hopefully it will be so dry it will slip my mind.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Apr 30, 2024 10:32:50 GMT
so the solution appears to be to move all CC matches in April to South Wales then
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Post by newby on Apr 30, 2024 13:29:24 GMT
Well it is closer than Dubai or Abu Dhabi which seems to be the suggestion to the early season problem coming from Warwickshire.
Alas there's no pattern to weather so next year the same information may indicate the East Midlands is the driest spot.
I honestly don't know how much it would help but watching several livestreams of grounds with the covers on it seems to be universal that groundsmen are so centred on keeping the wicket and the bowlers run up dry they don't seem unduly concerned where the water they divert from these area goes.
Drives me mad.
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