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Graves
Jan 9, 2024 12:14:56 GMT
Post by newby on Jan 9, 2024 12:14:56 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 9, 2024 16:19:45 GMT
Well its balanced to a degree, except that it goes along with the common theme of accepting Rafiq's full testimony without question. It also suggests that Graves would like to apologise for using the b word. Is that because it's creating problems or because he thinks he was wrong. I see it is creating potential problems......I read that the YCCC/ECB committee are meeting to discuss this difficulty.....
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Post by newby on Jan 9, 2024 19:26:46 GMT
I disagree, I think he fully explained his use of the word banter, to distinguish the use of the language in the dressing room as unthoughtful but without malice, as opposed to being vicious, mean spirited and used to wound.
He further went on to acknowledge that as society moves on things have changed and something which really should never have been acceptable, but had been accepted, could no longer be excused.
A bit clumsy but I hope you get my meaning. It's a bit like trying to apologise for the historic treatment of homosexuals by locking them up or having them 'seen to medically', or perhaps hanging people for stealing a loaf of bread. At some stage society thought it was an acceptable thing to do but you'd be hard pushed to find an excuse for it today.
No mileage, just yet anyway, in questioning Rafiq's testimony. People believed him because they wanted to, and once you've invested in that it's difficult to admit you may have been wrong.
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Graves
Jan 9, 2024 20:07:44 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 9, 2024 20:07:44 GMT
Are you disagreeing with me Newby? If so, as I agree with everything you just said, we may be at cross purposes. The article suggests Graves wants to apologise for his phrasing. Of course, as a poster suggests on WRF, that may be a way out of this situation with a summary of the positive things he wants to do.
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Post by newby on Jan 9, 2024 21:00:15 GMT
Possibly, I'm just anxious that Colin Graves does what he has to do without making too many personal appearances. The article suggest he has some good well respected people with him and I'd prefer he let them do the media stuff.
He's as old as me, hopefully a lot more savvy than me, but he is an old white male in a privileged position, the media's favourite kind of target.
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Graves
Jan 9, 2024 21:44:28 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 9, 2024 21:44:28 GMT
Possibly, I'm just anxious that Colin Graves does what he has to do without making too many personal appearances. The article suggest he has some good well respected people with him and I'd prefer he let them do the media stuff. He's as old as me, hopefully a lot more savvy than me, but he is an old white male in a privileged position, the media's favourite kind of target. indeed
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Graves
Jan 10, 2024 16:44:00 GMT
Post by karma on Jan 10, 2024 16:44:00 GMT
ITV (sports) news has been in touch with our friends at that other place about 'Colin Graves return', wanting to 'hear the perspective of members or fans'
I think all have declined. My personal view is that is sensible.
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Post by newby on Jan 10, 2024 22:26:05 GMT
The board of YCCC have approved the takeover by Colin Graves. Details will be sent to members tomorrow.
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Graves
Jan 10, 2024 23:03:24 GMT
Post by davemorton on Jan 10, 2024 23:03:24 GMT
It didn't end well for Doctor Faustus either, but he sold his soul, while we had ours stolen from us.
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Graves
Jan 11, 2024 10:53:06 GMT
Post by donnylad on Jan 11, 2024 10:53:06 GMT
When England lost a test to Australia - they burned some bails and called it the Ashes. now a respected trophy.
Should we be considering what to burn and bottle when when YCCC turns into CG Cricket Ltd.?
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Graves
Jan 11, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
Post by davemorton on Jan 11, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
The bails were actually burned after we won, in Melbourne, 1882. We should have burned down Headingley 20 years ago, before we wasted all that money on a stadium for someone else to play in. It was no more than just another ground we played on, historically, usually about 4 Championship games out of 14 at home. Attachments:
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Post by karma on Jan 11, 2024 14:19:09 GMT
The board of YCCC have approved the takeover by Colin Graves. Details will be sent to members tomorrow. Yes, received details by e-mail today , it's taken me a couple of hours to wade through this with my fine-tooth comb - while I rather wish it had never come to this, and as I see things, voting 'No' to Graves is not something I want to contemplate. Don't mind saying that I've voted in favour. If anyone votes otherwise (or doesn't vote if qualified so to do) I respect your right to vote as you see fit and in private EGM set for 10:00am on Friday 2nd February @ Headingley, 'Long Room' . I'll probably still go to the EGM so that I can walk through the photographers and placards, oh and listen to some of the rhetorical questions coming from the floor, especially from the Old Guard. Graves has, I understand apologised for the historic racism at Yorkshire cricket.
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Post by karma on Jan 11, 2024 14:32:54 GMT
When England lost a test to Australia - they burned some bails and called it the Ashes. now a respected trophy. Should we be considering what to burn and bottle when when YCCC turns into CG Cricket Ltd.? I was going to suggest membership cards, but they are plastic and would leave a sticky mess rather than ashes. Perhaps: Lord Patel's excellent initial speech full of promise and promises, all of which were broken A 2023 yearbook . A copy of the letter signed by the sacked employees. We could of course burn a copy of Rafiq's book 'It's not banter, It's kindling' and let the ashes Blow in the Wind.
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Post by newby on Jan 11, 2024 17:12:11 GMT
I hope to go to the EGM but I've voted yes early anyway, doing what I can to give the club some certainty.
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Graves
Jan 11, 2024 21:23:32 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 11, 2024 21:23:32 GMT
well I have heard Phillip Hodson talk and he was the most impressive speaker I have ever heard so potentially a great local person to have on board
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