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Graves
Jan 3, 2024 23:12:17 GMT
Post by newby on Jan 3, 2024 23:12:17 GMT
They still don't seem to have fully dotted the I's and crossed the T's on this deal yet. Like everything else connected with Yorkshire nothing is ever simple.
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Graves
Jan 4, 2024 15:39:36 GMT
Post by karma on Jan 4, 2024 15:39:36 GMT
Clive Efford MP, member of the Culture, Media and Sports Parliamentary Select Committee has commented on the Graves consortium bid saying, "It would be a retrograde step and a disaster for cricket if the ECB allow it to happen"
On the other hand , Robin Smith is in favour of backing the proposal from Graves
I would normally do the opposite of what each of these says but that wouldn't help. I am not a fan of Robin Smith and as far as the Select Committee is concerned, I regard it's involvement in the Rafiq affair as being amateurish, one-sided, possibly politically motivated, allowing and encouraging unchallenged statements that led to a media feeding frenzy and more. That apart the ECB has already I understand together with YCCC indicated approval. That's approval not recommendation. So that's the difference between Knight and Daylight.
In fact I am somewhat puzzled by Efford's comments. Parliamentary Privilege should not be used to influence members one way or the other in something meant to be a democratic vote. After all, Efford was elected to his position of power by a democratic vote without outside influence.
At the moment, I'm in favour, though I want to see the detail before voting.
Last day is tomorrow 5th January for final submissions from Graves.
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Graves
Jan 4, 2024 19:45:37 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 4, 2024 19:45:37 GMT
i’m in favour of Graves. What he has said makes sense to me.
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Graves
Jan 4, 2024 21:07:30 GMT
Post by newby on Jan 4, 2024 21:07:30 GMT
Some flack aimed towards Yorkshire and the ECB is unwelcome but was to be expected.
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Graves
Jan 5, 2024 16:48:37 GMT
Post by newby on Jan 5, 2024 16:48:37 GMT
A bit of heat, but not much light from posters with different viewpoints on the other place with reference to the Colin Graves expected takeover.
I just want it to be done.
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Graves
Jan 5, 2024 16:56:27 GMT
Post by davemorton on Jan 5, 2024 16:56:27 GMT
“If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly.”
Personally, I think it would be better if Macbeth were to find another hobby.
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Graves
Jan 5, 2024 20:34:29 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 5, 2024 20:34:29 GMT
“If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly.” Personally, I think it would be better if Macbeth were to find another hobby. Looks like early next week according to Chris Waters on the YP website tonight despite a report in the Telegraph apparently claiming Graves’ move was being blocked
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Post by newby on Jan 5, 2024 23:16:42 GMT
The blocking seems a bit of nonsense, especially as it's the two members representatives who are allegedly the pair in question. They may be a couple of very nice chaps, though I admit I didn't like the 'cut of their jib' when I have come across them at members meetings.
There is no white knight in sight so we will have to make do with our rather grey one and move on.
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Graves
Jan 6, 2024 11:41:49 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 6, 2024 11:41:49 GMT
The blocking seems a bit of nonsense, especially as it's the two members representatives who are allegedly the pair in question. They may be a couple of very nice chaps, though I admit I didn't like the 'cut of their jib' when I have come across them at members meetings. There is no white knight in sight so we will have to make do with our rather grey one and move on. The blocking has been denied by the club….
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Graves
Jan 7, 2024 19:00:18 GMT
Post by newby on Jan 7, 2024 19:00:18 GMT
Surely this nonsense isn't going to stretch on past this week. As Dave says it would be best it was done quickly, or words to that effect.
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Graves
Jan 7, 2024 20:57:46 GMT
Post by byased on Jan 7, 2024 20:57:46 GMT
Yes, the sooner the better. It sort of makes a nonsense of what has gone on over the past couple of years, but maybe the ECB are seeing some sense at last.
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Graves
Jan 8, 2024 19:01:59 GMT
Post by newby on Jan 8, 2024 19:01:59 GMT
The Dam gates have been opened seemingly in terms of opposition to the return of Mr G. Of course those opposing have no suggestions as to plan B.
It might be incumbent on Colin Graves to take more of a back seat than he would like, when and if the deal is finalised. I think and hope he can find a way to do that.
I've given up looking at the other place and will leave them to it.
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Graves
Jan 8, 2024 22:36:19 GMT
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Post by karma on Jan 8, 2024 22:36:19 GMT
I find it strange that Rafiq, a man who claims to have suffered extreme prejudice at Yorkshire, who has seen a 'clearout 'of all those with whom he claims to have suffered at YCCC, now calls for all sponsors to cancel contracts. This could result in YCCC's bankruptcy . Surely he is showing extreme prejudice and vindictiveness against a totally different Yorkshire than the one he was at.
What a sad, bitter twisted and totally morally bankrupt individual he is. All my sympathy for this man is exhausted.
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Graves
Jan 9, 2024 10:09:27 GMT
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Post by hawke on Jan 9, 2024 10:09:27 GMT
Well Rafiq is sticking to his version and/or his advisers are writing his script. We don’t really know what was said or how or by who but the most likely version is not in malice so must be the b word however unpleasant and inappropriate, regrettable and unacceptable that now seems, as basically Graves has said.
It’s a subject we all bring our pre/conceived ideas and prejudices to and it’s a dividing subject like another b word, Brexit. Not really surprising that things get heated.
ECB:YCCC are currently sticking to their guns as is the predictable opposition. Will sponsors?
As some one said on the WRF, it’s not the truth that counts but the perception or how the media portrays it.
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Graves
Jan 9, 2024 11:21:24 GMT
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Post by karma on Jan 9, 2024 11:21:24 GMT
That sounds like something I would have said on WFR.
Rafiq said that everyone deserves a second chance but with his next breath says that all the sponsors should withdraw from YCCC. I presume this is to thwart Graves but how does this give him a second chance (assuming he knew his first).
Can't wait for the members to vote though , I'm keen to move forward
PS Rafiq's book is due to come out on Thursday 25th April, already being heavily discounted. I'm busy at the Harrogate Spring Flower show that day . The following day I'm at Headingley (1st day of 4day CC v Derbyshire) and will buy my copy from the club shop if they are selling it!!!!!!
No they won't, it'll be in the 'Mail'
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