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Post by newby on Sept 7, 2024 19:26:10 GMT
10:30 starts are here again and it feels like a rush to get the CC completed before bad light ends the season.
Division 1 fixtures:
Durham (7) v Lancashire (9) at Chester-le-Street - A loss might well be terminal for Lancashire. Essex (4) v Notts (8) at Chelmsford - Essex look out of contention, Notts not yet safe. Kent (10) v Hampshire (3) at Canterbury - Kent are surely relegated, Hampshire still in with a chance at top spot. Somerset (2) v Surrey (1) at Somerset - A Somerset win will open up the Championship. Worcestershire (5) v Warwickshire (6) at New Road - 4 CC wins in a row possible for Worcestershire.
Division 2 fixtures:
Sussex (1) v Glamorgan (5) at Hove - Come on Glamorgan! Northants (7) v Derbyshire (8) at Northampton - Wooden spoon on the line. Middlesex (2) v Gloucestershire (6) at Lords - Come on Gloucestershire!
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Post by newby on Sept 8, 2024 16:27:33 GMT
Is it me or are overseas signings getting ever more obscure! Lancashire have signed West Indian pace bowler Anderson Phillip for the rest of the CC, probably to match the signing of Chemar Holder for Durham, who they play tomorrow.
I'm afraid I haven't heard of either of them.
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Post by newby on Sept 9, 2024 6:58:30 GMT
Whereas I have heard of Shakib Al Hasan, but I'm still struggling to comprehend his signing by Surrey, just for the one CC game at Taunton.
The England call-ups must really be hurting.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 9, 2024 7:03:38 GMT
no county should be allowed to sign a player for one game only - farcical. Surrey need to back their own spinners but instead they let Moriarty leave, Virdi go out on loan and now draft in an overseas gun for one game.
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Post by newby on Sept 9, 2024 7:10:41 GMT
We can only hope he has a stinker, like the rest of his team mates.
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Post by newby on Sept 9, 2024 20:53:09 GMT
In Division 1:
At CLS Lancashire struggled to 177/6 from 78 overs mainly thanks to 74 not out from young Matty Hurst. All the Durham bowlers going for 2 or less per over, except for their short term Windies quick, Chemar Holder, who went for 53 from 8 overs and was wicketless.
At Chelmsford Essex recovered from 86/4 to 262/5 against Notts thanks to 72 from tall Paul Walter and 108 not out from Tom Westley.
At Canterbury Kent kept Hampshire down to 213/7 in the 61 overs available. Skipper Vince top scored with 88.
At Taunton second placed Somerset fell from 262/4 to 317 all out against Surrey. Surrey getting their money's worth out of Shakib Al Hasan who bowled 34 overs taking 4 for 97 with a late burst. 132 from Tom Banton and 44 from Archie Vaughan who was opening the batting.
At New Road in the Pears v Bears derby Worcestershire managed 294/8 at the close. 53 from Matthew Waite and 3 wickets for OHD.
In our Division.
At Hove Sussex firmly in charge after dismissing Glamorgan for 186, oversea bowler Unadkat doing the damage. Sussex reached 121/1 at the close with Aussie Danial Hughes leading the way with 57 not out. Surprised they have managed to keep hold of him with the Aussie season starting.
At Northants Derbyshire dismissed the home side for 219 and reached 65/1 at the close.
Finally at Lords, Middlesex had a decent day against Gloucestershire and made 377 at the close with Gloucestershire yet to bat. Come on Gloucester.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 10, 2024 6:21:03 GMT
Well if we get promoted, we are certainly trying to do it the hard way and not spend a load of money we havent got on short term overseas players!
Yes, Shakib bowled 34 of the 48 overs from one end so good to see Surrey (admittedly missing several with England test team - Atkinson, Pope, Smith and several more in the ODI team - Curran, Jacks Topley) but they still played 2 overseas players in Roach and Shakib, as well as Aussie Worrall who plays on a different passport so as not to be overseas which sounds fair dinkum. Somerset only appear to have a Kiwi Brett Randell who I have never heard of but clearly taunton does not have as deep pockets as The Oval to fund short term player signings. Bizarrely for a team that has made T20 finals days and does so regularly, Somerset dont appear to have any players in the England squads of either format and are also 2nd in the CC. Rob Key clearly doesnt drink cider.
Lancashire are clearly throwing money at overseas players, Iyer and Anderson Philip (who?) in an attempt to stave off relegation , having lost Nathan Lyon so Hartley is being selected. Is it enough? Well perhaps not against Durham with new signing Chemar Holder (who?) alongside Saffer Bedingham and Dutchman de Leede and then Ackermann alson onan EU passport.
Essex continue with Dean Elgar alongside a Benkenstein (but he is English with Saffer parents) and Snater who is a Zimbabwean playing for Holland. So Notts overseas keeper Verreyne should at least be able to practice his Afrikaans sledging regularly.
Hampshire struggle to get beyond A in the contacts list of their coaches mobile as they have Abbott and Abbas as their overseas players, and for good measure they have another Saffer born Jock in Brad Wheal to provide a pace attack sadly lacking in any home grown talent. OK Turner is away with England but even he is born overseas!
Worcts have a Zimbabwean/Dutchman too - Logan van Beek but their other Saffer born player Roderick (will they release Roderick at the end of the season....?) is British now. Warwickshire also look down under to another Kiwi Michael Rae to complement their imported northern seam attack of OHD, Rushworth and Rhodes.
Gloucts have Zafar Gohar who has played for them regularly over the last few seasons but fair play to Middlesex who are overseas-less.
Northants are throwing money around like confetti with Prithvi Shaw from india and now kept company with the short term signing of Chahal for the last few games despite them unlikely to make promotion spots. Glamorgan have Saffer Colin Ingram whilst opponents Sussex trying maintain their promotion challenge in div 2 have Indian seamer Unadkat and Aussie opener Hughes.
Which leaves our game - I struggle with Leicts.... they have an opener born in Wisconsin, Indian batter Rahane, but have just lost Handscomb as their 2nd overseas. So when you look at our overseas-less line up for this game with 10 players born and bred in Yorkshire supported by lone "outsider" Dom Bess it looks like a return to the 70s and 80s with our selection policy!
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Post by karma on Sept 10, 2024 7:05:49 GMT
And it's important to note that it's not racist to prefer Yorkshire born players making up the team. Just ask Yorkshire born Adil Rashid who I feel is prejudiced against playing for Yorkshire in any capacity.
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Post by newby on Sept 10, 2024 7:37:53 GMT
While it may not be racist it is easily construed from the outside as being insular and narrow minded. It is a Yorkshire trait and I do share it, although I'm afraid it embarrasses me if I dwell on it too long.
Rules are rules as far as overseas players are concerned, although they can be tweaked or amended if your name is Jofra Archer and it's the ECB making the rules.
In the case of Dan Worrall, although he has a British passport he isn't yet eligible to play for England. I would class him, and others like him as overseas player until he/they are.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 10, 2024 7:50:07 GMT
well in our defence, we have tried to be more diverse.
But Milnes (Nottingham born), Edwards (Australian) are injured, Moriarty (Surrey via South Africa) is not good enough if we pick one spinner only, Masood is back with his country, Fernando is still celebrating a Sri Lanka win at the Oval.
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Post by tykemania on Sept 10, 2024 8:23:28 GMT
On Surrey, I have to say that it is long past time that the ECB stopped guaranteeing them international cricket on favourable terms at the Oval and brought them back closer to an even financial footing with the rest of the county game, because their stockpiling of talent is doing noone any good.
Looking at their squad for this current season, their seam bowling options are as follows:
Dan Worrall Kemar Roach Sean Abbott Jordan Clark Gus Atkinson Tom Lawes Sam Curran Jamie Overton Tom Curran Chris Jordan Rhys Topley James Taylor Conor McKerr Matt Dunn
14! Of whom a paltry 6 came through the Surrey system (and three of them are of the Yarpie/Zimbok varietal). Nobody will convince me that that is good for the game!
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Post by karma on Sept 10, 2024 14:41:13 GMT
Surrey are a very wealthy club already but they will shortly be stratospherically rich beyond our widest dreams .
This relates to the sale the Oval-based 💯 team (name) , which it is believed is 'worth' many times the value of the 💯 team (name) that plays out of Headingley. There will be extreme pressure upon YCCC to sell our payout shares and use the proceeds to pay off some debts.
Surrey don't have debts, I understand they make a profit every year and would continue to do so even if they didn't sell so many tickets to supporters. They'd probably just buy more players but keep their shares as an investment.
Still we did beat them in the Metro One-Day Cup.
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Post by newby on Sept 10, 2024 15:20:06 GMT
Not satisfied with the status quo Sussex have had a quick dart and managed to get a fourth batting point with 2 balls to spare.
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Post by newby on Sept 11, 2024 7:33:53 GMT
As mentioned elsewhere, at CLS Durham, in the form of Bedingham and Ackerman, were batting Lancashire into the dust yesterday and Lancashire had no answers. If they come out of this with the single point they have accrued so far it looks like curtains. Lancashire 228 and Durham 367-4
At Chelmsford Notts on 37-1 are still 420 runs behind Essex's 457 all out. Notts just need to bat out a draw if they can.
At Canterbury Kyle Abbot has helped reduce Kent to 64-5, still a long way behinds Hampshire's 407. It could be over today given the frailties of Kent.
At Taunton Surrey, 169-3 are 148 runs behind Somerset's 317 all out. I would expect them to bat on into infinity if they can. A draw is fine for them.
At New Road the weather has stopped the game moving on very far, Worcester 307 v Warwickshire 112-4.
In our Division, well if you aren't following what's going on you aren't interested. Expected wins for Sussex, Middlesex, Northants and us will be confirmed, or denied by the weather.
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Post by hawke on Sept 11, 2024 12:14:14 GMT
Lunch time update Hopefully some more play at Leics today Good weather forecast for tomorrow. Glos hanging in there Notts keeled over alarmingly. Gives Lancs some hope whilst they are being trampled on. Som and Surrey very even
Southern theme. Southern Africans trampling Lancs. Another Southern African takes wickets v Notts. A Southern Yorkshireman - presume that’s what Archie is - takes 6! He’s not really that good is he….. Come on another South Yorkshireman - Billy Root
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