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Post by newby on Jul 23, 2024 7:57:10 GMT
It's that time of year and the competition starts today. Whatever you think of it I don't think you can blame the players for taking the money, though of course once you start this sort of thing you never quite know how it will end up.
I thought overall the T20 blast looked to be struggling to fill the grounds, interesting to see how the Hundred does. It's short of some big name players for the early rounds with competition from the American league. Ben Stokes, Joe Root etc will only play the odd game due to England duties and even Jos Buttler, who has nothing on, can't be bothered.
I think all the games are double headers, so at least the Women's game will be getting it's time in front of a decent audience.
Yorkshire players involved:
2, Harry Brook, Adil Rashid at the Superchargers. 3, Joe Root, Adam Lyth, Jordan Thompson at Trent Rockets. 1, Dawid Malan, plus our T20 overseas Ferreira at the Oval Invincibles. 1, Jonny Bairstow at Welsh Fire. If he can be bothered.
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Post by karma on Jul 23, 2024 11:03:05 GMT
I don't blame the players for playing for the most money (though I don't like it)
The T20 attendances did seem down and I missed a couple of games myself with family commitments.
The T20 needs an injection of publicity such as the BBC broadcasting some games on terrestrial tv and commentators waxing lyrical about it while commentating on the Test series v W. Indies (like they did for the hundred). Looked at today's TV schedule. There's no cricket on the BBC, just some π― guff.
Still come Thursday there'll be the One-Day Cup to fill the no-first class cricket vacuum
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Post by newby on Jul 23, 2024 13:26:32 GMT
Forecast not looking great for our first game at the Oval. The competition starts on Wednesday if you don't mind watching/listening to other teams. Perhaps Lancashire v Durham at Sedbergh School might take your fancy Hawke!
I don't think it's a good day for staying, in unless you have to, but some views of the Howgill fells might be on offer.
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Post by hawke on Jul 23, 2024 16:45:33 GMT
Forecast not looking great for our first game at the Oval. The competition starts on Wednesday if you don't mind watching/listening to other teams. Perhaps Lancashire v Durham at Sedbergh School might take your fancy Hawke! I don't think it's a good day for staying, in unless you have to, but some views of the Howgill fells might be on offer. Ha! Itβs our Wedding Anniversary tomorrow so I could take Lasy Hawke for a real treat. We are actually at Grasmere and are heading home tomorrow evening. Could call in but the match might be over by then and Lancs may have scuttled back to their own county. Bet they never play us there.
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Post by karma on Jul 23, 2024 19:09:55 GMT
Good news about Malan, the side strain that kept him out of Yorkshire's last-Friday-night's-last-chance-saloon T20' is cured. He's been able able to turn out for the Oval based team in that other game v Birmingham whatever.
At least it wasn't his ankle giving him another niggle this time. I don't think we'll hear from him again this season.
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Post by newby on Jul 23, 2024 20:47:28 GMT
A bit of a damp squib with such a poor batting performance by Birmingham. I intended to watch the climax after my evening stroll but it was all over.
I'm giving Malan the benefit of the doubt after his absence on Friday.
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Post by Capybara on Jul 24, 2024 8:08:08 GMT
Usually I know when a cricket match at the Oval has ended because a stream of bedraggled, half-drunk, usually male individuals starts to arrive in my local pub. Yesterday I knew the game had finished but there was no one so on that completely unscientific observation it suggests that the Hundred is attracting a different type of spectator, presumably children with their parents, which is what it was supposedly set up to do. Not the likes of us.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jul 24, 2024 8:09:01 GMT
Well for the next 2 weeks any games of the Hundred being shown will be on a collision course with the Olympics so we face the tricky choice of watching
Rugby 7s Handball Archery Fencing Skateboarding Canoe Slalom Water Polo Shooting Mountain biking Dressage and many more
or you could watch the Spirit (a Gin sponsor?), Invincibles (who at least were true to their name and won last night) , Superchargers (sponsored by an EV company?), Originals (Werthers?), Dolly Mixtures and Fire-starters....
Its the Olympics for me I think
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Post by newby on Jul 25, 2024 7:55:58 GMT
Early days, but catching a few glimpses of the games at the Oval and Southampton they were by no means sold out.
I also read that there will be no expansion until the end of the current TV deal in 2028.
On the downside, or upside depending on your point of view it sounds like the ECB are having to tout their wares to a larger audience in trying to find the level of outside investment they think it's worth.
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Post by tbsteve on Jul 26, 2024 1:21:27 GMT
Surely that's a downside for everyone? Less investment means less opportunity for Yorkshire to sell their 51% stake.
I'm personally in two minds whether it's better to sell our stake and clear the debt, or hold on to the family silver as it increases in value over time. But either way, surely all Yorkshiremen would want their asset value to be increasing?
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jul 26, 2024 7:24:28 GMT
As with the Premier League, I would always have more support and loyalty for a team who have a local owner with his heart in the club and who knows the local community and recognises the role the club has to play in that regard.
Give me a Steve Gibson at Middlesbrough over a Saudi owned Newcastle or Man City team, US owned Liverpool any day of the week.
Ditto a Colin Graves owned YCCC would appeal to me far more than some cement company from India
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Post by newby on Jul 26, 2024 9:46:42 GMT
I don't spend too much time reading everything that's been written and I may be completely wrong, but my gut feeling is that the ECB have promised the Moon to the counties in order to get them to agree to the sell off, but as things stand they may only be able to deliver a small asteroid.
As with the football analogy it's not all black and white and I'm sure a great many Middlesbrough fans wouldn't mind their team having the financial clout of a Manchester City. It can be pretty difficult being a plucky loser, even if you feel you have the moral high ground.
I'd like to see a re-think on the hundred and so I look for little signs that it's not the great success we are led to believe. Unfortunately, that clashes with being a Yorkshire supporter in that our current financial woes are such that the hundred may well be our saviour.
So, while being encouraged by the empty seats at Old Trafford last night, I'm hoping for a sold out Headingley tonight. Makes no sense really.
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Post by Capybara on Jul 26, 2024 12:44:51 GMT
As with the football analogy it's not all black and white and I'm sure a great many Middlesbrough fans wouldn't mind their team having the financial clout of a Manchester City. It can be pretty difficult being a plucky loser, even if you feel you have the moral high ground. Speaking as a Middlesbrough season ticket holder of 30+ years' standing give me Steve Gibson over what Manchester City have any day. Having loads of money and winning things left, right and centre and knowing that will continue sucks the excitement out of supporting a team. You only need to listen on the telly whenever City (and the others) score. It's just another goal to them. Mind you, even with a reasonably benevolent owner such as Gibson, you have no say, as a supporter, over how things are run which is why I'd much rather see a membership-based structure in the game.
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Post by newby on Jul 29, 2024 20:50:35 GMT
Just caught the last couple of overs from Old Trafford. In the final over, I refuse to call it a set, Trent Rockets, in the form of Jordan Thompson snatched the victory out of the Manchester teams hands.
Needing 6 to win Manchester managed 2,2,0, wicket, wicket.
2nd game at Headingley tomorrow, I think Harry Brook is playing and perhaps Ben Stokes, might bring a few in and they certainly need some reinforcements after their last poor showing.
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Post by karma on Jul 30, 2024 6:35:45 GMT
I've no real interest in the hundred competition partly because I want my summer and Yorkshire players back, together with not having to play County Cricket in early April and late September.
However, I've no ill-will towards supporters of that 'game' or players, I want it to be enjoyable for supporters in good weather and naturally want Yorkshire players to perform well and avoid injury. I realise if they are poor games, badly supported and Yorkshire players underperformed that would give some satisfaction to some but these are not worthy thoughts
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