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Post by newby on Sept 19, 2024 10:04:00 GMT
Gavin Hamilton installed as D of C or Cricket manager as they are calling it. I never thought about him.
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Post by davemorton on Sept 19, 2024 11:15:57 GMT
Surprise to me too, but he has management / financial skills, as well as the obvious cricket background.
But he's not going to be 'hands on' with the players, is he? Suit and tie rather than tracksuit? Or similar to Moxon's long-time role? Whatever that was.
I often wonder whether this level of management is necessary. And I usually conclude it isn't. Boardroom BS.
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Post by hensonsprman on Sept 19, 2024 12:56:36 GMT
Yorkshire Post saying that Anthony McGrath will be the new Head Coach once the season ends.
From today's YP :-
Yorkshire CCC appoints Gavin Hamilton as general manager YORKSHIRE have appointed Gavin Hamilton as their new general manager of cricket.
By Chris Waters Published 19th Sep 2024, 11:02 BST The former Yorkshire, England and Scotland all-rounder will be responsible for delivering success across all formats of the game. Hamilton takes up a newly-created role that effectively replaces the former managing director of cricket position vacated by Darren Gough. He will work closely with the new head coach who is set to be his former Yorkshire team-mate Anthony McGrath, who is understood to be favourite to replace Ottis Gibson at the end of the season.
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Post by hensonsprman on Sept 19, 2024 13:00:39 GMT
Interesting developments, it's been rumoured to be Silverwood and McGrath for the last 2 months, Hamilton looks more suited to the role he has been given than Silverwood. I wonder if there will still be a role for Silverwood in the revised set up. The Notts lads I know reckon there are a couple of players coming from Essex as well
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Post by newby on Sept 19, 2024 13:58:58 GMT
I think McGrath is pretty much an open secret.
I still think we will have outsiders scratching their heads if we do get promoted when it sinks in that Otis Gibson has effectively been sacked.
I'm more reconciled to his going now, he seems pretty cheerful and has spoken of being able to enjoy the rest of his life in Barbados. He really must have been paid a lot in his first year.
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Post by byased on Sept 19, 2024 14:01:49 GMT
I remember Hamilton having quite a successful spell at Yorkshire, then suffering the "yips", and his career nosedived.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 20, 2024 8:05:13 GMT
but he then went away and adjusted from being a lower order bowler who could bat reasonably well, to being a dynamic international opener for Scotland who did not bowl. In one World Cup I think he scored more runs playing for Scotland than any England player did in the tournament.
he did of course only play 1 test match, the one Vaughan also made his debut in and I think Chris Adams too, away in South Africa when England were 2-4 at one stage. Sadly Gav failed to score a run or take a wicket in his one game.
However, since retiring I think he has worked in industry and had some involvement in sport too so he is well placed to do the role. I would imagine he will be the cricket representative reporting in to the Board but without being a member of the Board and Mags may report into him but have purely a playing focus?
Good to see him back in my view, Mags too, who has perhaps surprised people with his success as a coach at Essex. Does this mean a return to the secret sock snipper in the dressing room too?
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Post by hawke on Sept 20, 2024 18:24:22 GMT
Yes Gavin H seems to have gained much useful experience since his retirement from playing and his own career ups and downs means he understands the challenges of the game.
I’m never sure about Anthony McGrath and wonder if he was lucky to be at the right club at the right time. Well we will see if he is appointed.
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Post by donnylad on Sept 20, 2024 18:55:21 GMT
SLA said .."Does this mean a return to the secret sock snipper in the dressing room too?"
Oh Lordy I hope not. Just in case he brings his mate Justa Bitterbants with him.
Dressing room 'pranks' are, in the main, just nastiness - it is usually a powerful character who is at the back of them. Just a way of putting the others in their place at their expense ... a.k.a. bullying.
We once had bloke at the rugby club whose idea of a bit of a laugh was to sprinkle everyone's towels with Oil of Wintergreen. Now O of W is excellent when applied to leg muscles on a winter day before a game. It is less welcome after a shower when looking to dry one's privy parts. Eventually we worked out who the said O of W dispenser was, and in no uncertain terms, he was told where to go for his future games of rugby. He did so, rapidly, his speed of exit was in proportion to the size of the lad who explained it to him - 6 foot 3, prop, farmer, built like a haystack and nothing like as nice.
Fine to do that in an amateur club but what if being there and playing is your livelihood and the perp is a senior player or worse, the captain??
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Post by hawke on Sept 20, 2024 20:02:20 GMT
A report in the YP by Chris Waters says, unsurprisingly, that OG is very disappointed not to have been given the chance to take the team further. His release reminds me of the RL Challenge Cup Final MoM award, taken too early to have a full overview of the situation. GH and potentially AMc may be a better fit. But undoubtedly OG does by now also know the club, from top to bottom. Tricky one
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Post by davemorton on Sept 20, 2024 21:18:02 GMT
I hope Ottis will walk round in front of the fans on Thursday. We who watch the team, and gladly pay, home and away, will wish to pay our respects.
Thank you, Ottis.
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Post by byased on Sept 21, 2024 7:20:28 GMT
Hamilton seems a decent choice. The budget must be looking brighter if we are replacing one man with two. I see McGrath has recently been appointed director of cricket at Essex, so would he leave that role? He would be a decent choice if he does, although Lehmann would still get my vote. Four day results picked up not long after Gibson was given notice. In the end he may go out on a bit of a high, which will be good all round. Performance in the other competitions were not really good enough though, and so some new blood probably needed.
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Post by kennyshovel on Sept 21, 2024 8:47:03 GMT
Four day results picked up not long after Gibson was given notice. The upturn in Championship form started with back-to-back innings defeats of Gloucestershire & Derbyshire. That was about 4-5 weeks before the news about Gibson was made public. I'd be interested in knowing when coach & squad were told.
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Post by byased on Sept 21, 2024 16:44:24 GMT
I was not thinking there was anything in it particularly, just the timing of it. We seemed to pick up once we had none of the test players to pick, Root, Brook, Masood. We didn't perform well in the other competitions with the supposed better players in either. No great theories on that, maybe just confidence in winning a game or two in the championship. A winning mentality only comes with winning, which we didn't do too often for a good chunk of the season.
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Post by tykemania on Sept 21, 2024 17:05:43 GMT
I wonder how much the change in results is down to teams in the early part of the season a) feeling like they were more "in" the competition and b) being terrfied of doing anything other than defend against the star line up; we made the vast majority of the running in those early games, but came up against the common concern that our attack lacked penetration. Indeed, the irony is the two sides who tried to play cricket against us - Middlesex at Lords and Sussex at Hove - both ended up beating us!
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