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Post by tykemania on Jun 14, 2024 18:30:09 GMT
Flicking through the Cricketer today, there is a big chunk about Matt Fisher and how he is "wanted" by Surrey for next season, with Durham also waiting in the wings.
Know he has fitness issues, but this would feel like a big loss.
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Post by hawke on Jun 15, 2024 5:33:16 GMT
Flicking through the Cricketer today, there is a big chunk about Matt Fisher and how he is "wanted" by Surrey for next season, with Durham also waiting in the wings. Know he has fitness issues, but this would feel like a big loss. His injuries are a factor in YCCC not performing as well as we would have wanted. We all desperately want Matthew fit and playing well for us, for his own sake too of course. Any other outcome would be a huge blow to the club.
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Post by newby on Jun 15, 2024 7:32:19 GMT
Surprise all round is my reaction. That he might go, that we might let him go, and that any other team feel he is worth taking a punt on with his extensive injury record.
It's the hope that kills you so they say, and hoping that at some stage Matt Fisher will miraculously get fit and change the clubs fortunes is part of the Raison d'etre of many Yorkshire fans.
What will we replace that with!
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Post by hawke on Jun 15, 2024 7:43:47 GMT
Surprise all round is my reaction. That he might go, that we might let him go, and that any other team feel he is worth taking a punt on with his extensive injury record. It's the hope that kills you so they say, and hoping that at some stage Matt Fisher will miraculously get fit and change the clubs fortunes is part of the Raison d'etre of many Yorkshire fans. What will we replace that with! indeed
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Post by hawke on Jun 15, 2024 8:18:40 GMT
So I presume he is coming to the end of his current contract and YCCC are wondering what to offer him….. Isn’t this now the time of year when players in this situation can talk to other clubs??? A bad time in mid-season.
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Post by tykemania on Jun 15, 2024 17:00:03 GMT
According to the article his current deal and his England development deal end at the end of this season.
He can talk to other counties should he wish to do so.
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Post by hawke on Jun 15, 2024 17:11:42 GMT
According to the article his current deal and his England development deal end at the end of this season. He can talk to other counties should he wish to do so. Yes that is the current system isn’t it. Seems highly disruptive mid/season.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jun 17, 2024 8:25:37 GMT
This is what 2 division cricket will always do, where div 1 counties pick off the best div 2 players. For a long time we were in div 1 so not a target for for the div 1 vultures, but young English players will always be attractive, especially those with international aspirations and we can all see the opportunity post Branderson for quality English seamers.
I suspect Surrey are also looking at an ageing attack and may not want it top heavy with players from overseas like Worrall and Roach
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Post by newby on Jun 17, 2024 8:49:51 GMT
This is what 2 division cricket will always do, where div 1 counties pick off the best div 2 players. For a long time we were in div 1 so not a target for for the div 1 vultures, but young English players will always be attractive, especially those with international aspirations and we can all see the opportunity post Branderson for quality English seamers. I suspect Surrey are also looking at an ageing attack and may not want it top heavy with players from overseas like Worrall and Roach They can have Conor McKerr back!
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Post by davemorton on Jun 17, 2024 10:18:18 GMT
Meanwhile, Leicestershire have young left-arm giant Hull, 90 mph Currie on loan from Hampshire, and Ben Mike, who was never deemed worthy of a chance at Yorkshire.
I love Matt Fisher, but in terms of appearances for money he must be the most overpaid player outside the IPL. Ben Coad is going the same way, and the other guy Milnes was a crock when we signed him.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jun 17, 2024 11:37:00 GMT
we have been there before re Milnes. He was not a crock when we signed him (in July 2 years ago) but he did then get injured in the August of that year after he had signed terms with us. i am not sure what medical he was asked to pass before we offered him a deal but he must have passed it at the time.
He then broke down again in his first game for us last summer and then this year lasted a couple of games. I have a mate who knows him well and the lad needs our support and sympathy rather than being written off
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Post by davemorton on Jun 17, 2024 14:59:18 GMT
SLA - yes, you're right, Milnes played 10 CC games for Kent that year, which was actually more games, and more overs, than Fisher and Coad between them were able to play for Yorkshire. He took 21 at 42.9, while our two took 29 between them at less than 20 runs apiece.
Ben Mike that same year played 8 games for Leics (in Div 2) and took 16 at 42.3 apiece.
All of which proves, er, not much! Of course unfit bowlers need care and deserve our sympathy, but it would be nice to have some good ones who stayed fit.
That same season. Patto played 13 games, bowled 427 overs and took 37 wickets at 27.5. His reward was to be sacked. Trade in your 20-year-old Bentley and buy a couple of 10-year-old broken down Fords. You know it makes sense.
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Post by newby on Jun 17, 2024 15:18:25 GMT
Whatever the timings were re Milnes and his signing and the injuries I don't think they could have been timed more badly. He looks to be a good honest trier and with a bit more luck and a few more games under his belt even the hardest hearted Yorkshire followers may have come round.
I'm not sure why Coad deserves to come into the conversation. He's just been injured after completing 6 CC matches in a short period of time and has therefore missed one CC game. He isn't a natural T20 candidate and we've only ever called him up in extremis.
His tally of 267 wickets at 20.34 from 70 matches since his debut in 2016 I think he is more than paying his way.
Fisher may be in a period within his contract when other teams are allowed to talk to him. I can't believe due diligence would allow Surrey or Durham or anybody else to actually take him on.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jun 18, 2024 7:10:42 GMT
So this all begs the question, what have Gibson and Gough when around done to try and extend Fishers contract or were they happy to see it run down and let him go to save us some money?
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Post by newby on Jun 18, 2024 8:14:04 GMT
So this all begs the question, what have Gibson and Gough when around done to try and extend Fishers contract or were they happy to see it run down and let him go to save us some money? He's still only 26, but I'm afraid 126 wickets from 41 FC matches at 28.27 over a 9 year period would give anyone pause for thought. Difficult in the extreme to know what to do. I know it wouldn't be popular with most members but if it was left to me I wouldn't offer him anything. Now this isn't scientific, I don't know the man and perhaps I am being unduly harsh, but watching him this season before his injury, he seems increasingly petulant when bowling and things don't go his way. He also occasionally joins Jonathan Doidge for a bit of commentary and, being harsh again, he doesn't come across as a serious thoughtful person. Just my view and thankfully it's not my decision.
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