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Post by tykemania on May 21, 2024 17:23:32 GMT
I remember James Anderson's 'original' bowling style ... not far short of 'frog in a blender' and someone took him in hand and sorted his action out .... see end product!!! Didn't Anderson's major success come after he binned off the coached style and went back to something close to his original action?
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Post by tykemania on May 21, 2024 17:27:10 GMT
Almost every teenage fast bowler I knew had back problems! Snap. I think there are a couple of big no's - extensive twisting on the front knee and being too upright over a braced knee, as the former obviously wrecks ligaments and the latter lower backs - but even with my L3 I never felt I had the capability to correct those problems. That said, the majority of such problems are in the years around 20-22, and Fisher should be past that now. I know his latest injury was a freak, but he rarely bowls at full pelt nowadays, and has missed most of three of the last four seasons.
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Post by newby on May 21, 2024 19:32:57 GMT
I lose track of all the injuries to fast bowlers these days. No doubt with the growth of sports science etc there's a lot more precautions taken and the lay offs and phased returns take a lot longer than in days gone by.
We've been unlucky with Milnes and with Fisher but we certainly aren't alone. England men Josh Tongue and Jamie Overton have recently suffered long term injuries. They, like Milnes, were taken on by new clubs despite a less than perfect fitness history because they are seen as key assets. Jofra Archer!, I won't even go there.
Like Ben Coad, two England capped players, Sajid Mahmood and Matthew Potts both were both unfit to bowl for most of the 2nd innings of their recent game between Lancashire and Durham at Blackpool. I hope these injuries are not long term, it already is in the case of Mahmood, and they all return to playing quickly, especially Ben.
Is it more dangerous I wonder to strive for 80+ mph deliveries every ball, or aim to get there with an effort ball every couple of overs.
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Post by hawke on May 21, 2024 20:28:47 GMT
also the young Lancs quickie Aspinwall missed a lot of last season with back problems
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Post by davemorton on May 21, 2024 22:17:57 GMT
I used to hurl them down all winter in the nets, at around 50 mph, when I wasn't attempting leg-breaks. Never had a back problem. Nor was there much danger of me ever bowling in a match, except when I was captain.
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Post by tykemania on May 22, 2024 13:07:24 GMT
I lose track of all the injuries to fast bowlers these days. No doubt with the growth of sports science etc there's a lot more precautions taken and the lay offs and phased returns take a lot longer than in days gone by. We've been unlucky with Milnes and with Fisher but we certainly aren't alone. England men Josh Tongue and Jamie Overton have recently suffered long term injuries. They, like Milnes, were taken on by new clubs despite a less than perfect fitness history because they are seen as key assets. Jofra Archer!, I won't even go there. Like Ben Coad, two England capped players, Sajid Mahmood and Matthew Potts both were both unfit to bowl for most of the 2nd innings of their recent game between Lancashire and Durham at Blackpool. I hope these injuries are not long term, it already is in the case of Mahmood, and they all return to playing quickly, especially Ben. Is it more dangerous I wonder to strive for 80+ mph deliveries every ball, or aim to get there with an effort ball every couple of overs. You could also mention Ollie Stone, who looks absolutely quality in the two games a season he makes it to the field. Or Liam Norwell, who hasn't even made it on to the field since inadvertently relegating us two seasons ago. George Garton. Tymal Mills. Reece Topley. Now 4 over bowlers all.
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Post by newby on May 22, 2024 15:53:41 GMT
Richard Gleeson is another 4 overs if you're lucky bod. Moved from Lancashire to Warwickshire for this seasons T20 blast.
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Post by newby on Jul 2, 2024 20:15:01 GMT
Vishwa Fernando's record for Yorkshire:
Played 3, bowled 73.5 overs for 227 runs with 17 wickets at 13.35. More importantly the team won 2 and drew 1.
He can't bat for toffee unfortunately but he did get an edge for 4 today that picked up 1 batting point.
Big smile on his face most of the time. I think we can remember him with affection.
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Post by tykemania on Jul 2, 2024 21:39:00 GMT
Vishwa Fernando's record for Yorkshire: Played 3, bowled 73.5 overs for 227 runs with 17 wickets at 13.35. More importantly the team won 2 and drew 1. He can't bat for toffee unfortunately but he did get an edge for 4 today that picked up 1 batting point. Big smile on his face most of the time. I think we can remember him with affection. To be honest, I'd be quietly asking him whether he fancied a full season next year. He's a throwback - the batting is akin to my other half when we play with the nephews in the park - but what a wonderful attitude. I never had any doubt that he actively wanted to be there, that being on that field meant something to him, which the likes of Gabriel and Steketee never managed. Whether he would manage similar returns in Div One is debateable (he did get the bottom three in Division Two), but he is likely not massively expensive, he brings variety to whatever attack we choose to field, and you can't buy that positivity.
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Post by tykemania on Jul 2, 2024 21:41:40 GMT
Begs another question - now that we have gone from also rans to regretting the Hove debacle - will we bring another bowler in for the last five games? Milnes and Edwards (suppressing chuckles) are out, Fisher could be back could be crocked.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Jul 3, 2024 11:29:50 GMT
well we have McKerr perhaps?
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