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Post by davemorton on Apr 26, 2024 17:10:48 GMT
The only downsides of an interesting day: the temperature (though I was sitting with people who had been at Lord's, and Headingley was almost tropical); the Derbyshire over-rate, which was abysmal; and the hailstorm that finally ended it.
Lots to enjoy. Obviously Lyth, Masood, Root (who looked out of nick, but battled) and Brook would grace any cricket ground in the world. We were wondering about Masood innings of 40 = 10 x 4. Had anyone ever made so many entirely in fours? Someone said that Patsy (?) Harris of Notts had made 44, with 11 fours, and someone else had made more than that, entirely of boundaries, but including a six.
It must be very rare. In Masood's case, there was one through the slips, but the other nine were all round the ground, with exquisite timing and placement. Later, Harry Brook seemed to be trying to score faster, in his more brutal way.
The Derbyshire bowling had plenty of pace, with Kiwi Tickner and Chappell. More pace than we've got, certainly. One or two catches seemed to go down, though it's not easy to be sure, sometimes, watching live. Ironically, Root was bothered most by Luis Reece's little slow-medium club-style left-arm dobbers. Reece also got Masood, but Harry obviously thought they were all pies.
Now to see what my photos look like, before Bath beat Saracens tonight. (Please!)
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Post by newby on Apr 26, 2024 18:09:09 GMT
I enjoyed watching most of the first session before I had to go out, shame about the rain, hail. Probably the same downpour that hit York at about 2.45.
Decent scoring rate, and though it's never great to lose a full session, feels like it's been a good day. I can't really go until next weekend against Glamorgan when I hope it's a good deal warmer.
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Post by tykemania on Apr 26, 2024 18:57:37 GMT
There were certainly three this morning - Bean went down twice, the first a straightforward chance to Came off Anuj Dal the second a fast edge off Tickner that seems to have injured Wayne Madsen's fingers, and Lyth was put down as well (I think that may have been Came too).
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Post by newby on Apr 27, 2024 9:29:45 GMT
Looking at the live stream of the AGM, poor sound. More importantly it looks fine and dry at Headingley and here's hoping for a full day and that the game keeps moving in our favour.
Sunday looks like a washout so if the fates are against us and we can't get a positive result and 24 points from this one, then a 16 point draw will have to be the minimum requirement.
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Post by donnylad on Apr 27, 2024 13:38:17 GMT
Enjoyed watching the batting this morning - shows what we miss when Brook and Root are away.
The Derby seamers got a bit from the pitch later on and Fisher and Coad are going well.
Came has gone lbw to Fisher.
The over before Saggers turned down an lbw so plumb that even with the dodgy focus from the camera on the pavillion you could not see it missing. Inside of the right knee of the left hander Du Ploy .. and at least one and a half stumps visible behin the legs. Awful umpiring.
Fisher has just found the spot and Bean has caught Lloyd .... 15 for 2.
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Post by newby on Apr 27, 2024 13:47:25 GMT
Du Ploy! didn't you get the memo. Reece it was, just got back in to see that, sympathy vote for Reece from the umpire.
I thought Yorkshire should have pushed for 500 while the runs were coming so easily, but I'm quite happy with pulling out when all the points available had been taken.
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Post by newby on Apr 27, 2024 17:04:39 GMT
Good start but it's all gone a bit flat now with the Madsen/Guest pair making it look easy to bat if you aren't taking risks.
Lights on now, could they help get a couple of late wickets!, think I'm grasping at straws.
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Post by davemorton on Apr 27, 2024 18:53:58 GMT
Encouraging from Fisher, and Coad's excellence is unquestioned, but when they weren't bowling we never looked like getting a wicket. Could we go all season without a win?
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Post by donnylad on Apr 27, 2024 19:12:18 GMT
I watched the opening spell with admiration. The Hill came on and Tommo and the mood music changed.
Tommo bowled at middle and left and went ....through midwicket - he looks a yard short of the pace he had when the 'man who makes things happen' label was freely aired.
Hill looked a little less quick than the Derby seamers who managed to get some nibble. I wonder if there is a particular pace with an older ball that works, especially from the bottom end, and we didn't find it.
I suspect a nailed on draw having seen tomorrow's weather and yes DM. just how are we going to win a match?
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Post by newby on Apr 28, 2024 8:27:01 GMT
I wouldn't be so pessimistic. For whatever reason this is a flat docile pitch and once the new ball has lost it's shine it's difficult to get anything out of it. It's also very cold so despite the cloud and gloom there is little to no movement in the air.
On a pitch like this you need the full 4 days to get a result, it also helps if both teams are interested in getting a win. Trying for a win is the last thing on Derbyshire's mind so they can tootle along at 3 runs an over without taking any risks. 13/14 points from a game against Yorkshire at Headingley is a win in their books at this stage of the season.
I doubt we will get on at all today, but if we did you might expect an early morning wicket and then the new ball to perhaps get your 10 wickets with a decent enough first innings lead just after lunch on day 3. Of course if we hadn't lost the last session on the first day that lead might have been in the region of 200 runs.
Onwards and upwards, I can't see any chance of any contrivance on the final day when we will just be striving for the final 2 bowling points.
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Post by davemorton on Apr 28, 2024 10:53:42 GMT
I don't think we will get two bowling points. This is more like an early April pitch, with no pace and as flat as a pancake. A third of the season gone - and soon it will be almost a half - with not a glimpse of a win, or any likelihood of getting one.
The smart thing to do, within the ethics of the game, would be to produce extreme bowler-friendly damp green ones, and rely on our batting to make the difference. This almost happened at Lord's, but their bowling was so much better than ours, and they got lucky with toss and overhead conditions during the game.
In this game, the Derbyshire attack is stronger than ours, I would judge, with three quick bowlers to our one - certainly Tickner and Chappell, not sure about Brown - and an attacking medium-pacer in Dal, plus a bit of variety. It was weird that Reece troubled Root so much.
No cricket anywhere this morning. It's dry and breezy in Manchester!
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Post by donnylad on Apr 28, 2024 11:25:08 GMT
Dal and Reece seemed to find a length and a little movement that discomforted even Brook. Then he simply belted the next over or under pitched one to wherever he wanted.
The underfoot conditions are very wet - see the amount of mud on flannels and say what anyone likes, the boundary ropes have been brought in to make sure that the playing area didn't include the worst parts. Doidge and co spent a good 20 minutes trying to find ways of saying this yesterday morning.
We made as much use as we could of the first 10 overs (one sharp chance and a dodgy umpiring call apart) and after that ...... and neither Bess or Moriarty or even both of them would have made any difference. A lot of high-ish first innings scores around so I guess the problem isn't confined to Headingley.
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Post by newby on Apr 29, 2024 8:08:58 GMT
It looks very much like the first decent day to watch cricket this season with a bit of Sun about and very nearly comfortable temperatures expected at Headingley today.
I can't see anything other than a draw of course, if it was here in Scarborough I'd still go just for the pleasure of sitting out and being entertained.
Perhaps something dramatic will happen with the damp and the expected warmth making the ball start wobbling around like a good un.
As it is we have 47 overs to get another 6 wickets for the two remaining bonus points on offer.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Apr 29, 2024 9:07:20 GMT
hard to see anything else other than a draw today so playing for bowling points and the possible chance to see Harry or Joe in free flow with the bat again later on.
With no spinner, I suppose there is always one eye on the over rate too
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Post by karma on Apr 29, 2024 9:12:12 GMT
Agree newby, attending a game in good conditions is an opportunity to have good conversation with supporters from either team and watch good cricket from both teams.
We haven't actually won anything yet this season but the ground won't be empty and I like countless others keep coming back while I'm able.
There's also the fact that medical research shows attending live sport is good for our physical and mental health. 😎
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