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Post by davemorton on Apr 11, 2024 8:50:34 GMT
It's obvious Sam Cook is no good. He hasn't got a single Test wicket! People like Plunkett and Saj Mahmood (not Saqib) got picked by our then Zim coaches, when the likes of Sidebottom were reckoned not fast enough, even though medium-fast bowlers like Vernon Philander were taking Test wickets for fun.
Fletcher also thought Ashley Giles was better than Swann or Panesar....and there goes the Ashes urn, falling off the mantelpiece again.
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Post by newby on Apr 11, 2024 9:36:53 GMT
The trouble is there's quite a lot of bowlers out there and only so many England places to fill.
Speed seems to be the overriding priority for team England, despite the living evidence, in Anderson and Broad, that skill and accuracy can do a pretty decent job.
Just going by weight of numbers in terms of the averages can be a guide but it might turn out the top of the averages is particularly good at cleaning out the the tail and not so good against the openers and overseas Test players.
Perhaps you should get some weighting involved, double wickets in the averages for every Test class batsman you knock over, and a wicket and a half for other top 5 batsmen. Perhaps half a wicket for 9,10,jack.
Recommendations and media hype doesn't seem to work very well either, Atkinson for instance, what's that all about. Tom Lawes is the latest Surrey whizz kid to be touted, on no evidence at all. Similarly how is John Turner being given an England development contract. O yes he's really South African, that accounts for Bryden Carse too.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Apr 11, 2024 10:10:22 GMT
Actually I think Tom Lawes is very good, and handy with the bat too.
But I agree we always seem to like the look of someone educated overseas - but then perhaps young fast bowlers in their late teens and early 20s get a better schooling overseas than they do in England so they start with an advantage.
McCague, Mullally, Pattinson, and a whole host of others seem to have benefitted in this way long before Carse, Turner and co now
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