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Post by slowleftarmer on Dec 7, 2023 7:35:25 GMT
I would like to claim to being the inspiration for our improved performance with my post early yesterday morning further up this thread when I stated
"But it looks like we have ditched players based on age after the World Cup rather than ability or form and therefore Curran, Buttler and Livingstone avoided the bullets fired at Malan, Moeen and Willey."
It must have been pinned on the dressing room wall for Sam, Liam and Jos to read......
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Post by karma on Dec 7, 2023 9:27:28 GMT
And there was me thinking, SLA, that it was Lord Sugar's inspirational pre-match team talk what dun it.
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Post by donnylad on Dec 7, 2023 9:37:43 GMT
OK ... a win is a win ... but among all this 'wee needed a performance and we did' hype, Buttler patting himself on the back, I hope everyone looks at the duff WI side we are playing.
Please note Buttler that Jacks and Brook did the spadework and Ahmed di it with the ball. The next PR will be about how this is a base for winning the next World Cup, Test Match, 50 over match, 20 over match, beer match on the beach.
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Post by davemorton on Dec 7, 2023 9:48:52 GMT
Well, it was a better performance, by both sets of bowlers, on a better pitch. The four spinners all bowled okay, Motie especially, I thought. I wished Ahmed would spin it more; good otherwise. I was kept entertained because it's my sort of cricket anyway, and Harry was in for the last part. Windies batting is pretty hopeless, to be honest, not unlike their bowling. Their fielding is on another level altogether, and not a higher level.
Summary: good game, and I enjoyed most of it. Interesting stats about 5,000 ODI runs, a landmark both Hope and Buttler passed. Joe Root did it in about 40 fewer matches, as I imagine Brook will.
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Post by karma on Dec 7, 2023 10:33:18 GMT
OK ... a win is a win ... but among all this 'wee needed a performance and we did' hype, Buttler patting himself on the back, I hope everyone looks at the duff WI side we are playing. Please note Buttler that Jacks and Brook did the spadework and Ahmed di it with the ball. The next PR will be about how this is a base for winning the next World Cup, Test Match, 50 over match, 20 over match, beer match on the beach. Yep, 'One swallow doesn't make a summer' |
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Post by newby on Dec 9, 2023 17:09:26 GMT
Rain in the air and a delayed start in Barbados for the final ODI. Looks like Potts is in for his team mate Carse, when and if they get going.
Big Bash game was also washed out in Adelaide today so we aren't the only ones getting the benefit of the rain.
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Post by newby on Dec 9, 2023 19:27:52 GMT
The rain seems to have relented and we have a game 43 overs per side. Windies won the toss and have put England in to bat.
West Indies: 1 Alick Athanaze, 2 Brandon King, 3 Keacy Carty, 4 Shai Hope (capt & wk), 5 Shimron Hetmyer, 6 Sherfane Rutherford, 7 Romario Shepherd, 8 Yannic Cariah, 9 Alzarri Joseph, 10 Gudakesh Motie, 11 Matthew Forde
England: 1 Will Jacks, 2 Phil Salt, 3 Zak Crawley, 4 Ben Duckett, 5 Harry Brook, 6 Jos Buttler (capt & wk), 7 Liam Livingstone, 8 Sam Curran, 9 Rehan Ahmed, 10 Gus Atkinson, 11 Matt Potts
Potts for Carse for England and Forde for Oshane Thomas for the Windies.
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Post by donnylad on Dec 9, 2023 20:31:33 GMT
56 for 5 off 12 overs .... hmm! ... another good performance Mr Buttler???
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Post by donnylad on Dec 10, 2023 8:12:09 GMT
... apparently all was going well .... until Atkinson had one bad over ...... and as a result he went for 58 off 6 overs.
It went for 6,6,1,4,3,4
full toss, high full toss, length ball, leg side short of length, leg side knee high length ball, overpitched clouted straight.
So 5 overs for 36 .. OK on a par with the others. Brough back for the 'death bowling ...... 1 over for 24.
Hey ho!
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Post by karma on Dec 10, 2023 8:15:45 GMT
In fact, Normal service was resumed.
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Post by newby on Dec 10, 2023 8:40:57 GMT
Look on the bright side, he may have gone for 6,6,1,4,3,4. but at least he didn't bowl a no ball in there.
A good toss to win for the Windies and once England lost so many early wickets it was pretty much inevitable. It certainly would have been against a better side than the West Indies, but even they managed it, with a bit of help from Atkinson.
Windies have some experience returning for the T20 leg in which the Buttler/Mott leadership group will be judged more harshly if they don't do a whole lot better.
West Indies T20I squad Rovman Powell (capt), Shai Hope (vc), Roston Chase, Matthew Forde, Shimron Hetmyer, Jason Holder,Akeal Hosein, Alzarri Joseph, Brandon King, Kyle Mayers, Gudakesh Motie, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Russell, Sherfane Rutherford, Romario Shepherd.
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Post by donnylad on Dec 10, 2023 20:43:34 GMT
Strangely - all reference to the England men's West Indian horror shpw have disapppeared from the BBC sports site ... odd that.
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Post by davemorton on Dec 11, 2023 9:45:23 GMT
It may have been taken down to make room for more important women's games. There's a report on our defeat there now. One hesitates to judge a young cricketer one has never seen live...but Atkinson's crap, isn't he? And I think the selectors got their Currans mixed up.
I watched a game from Geelong - impressive stadium - which was abandoned for players' safety, because a couple of balls lifted from the damp surface. I don't see a return to uncovered pitches happening anytime soon, then.
Another Meldrew moment.
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Post by karma on Dec 11, 2023 10:56:02 GMT
I think when teams are playing in limited overs games the England management and supporters look for consistency. We've just had 9 England ODI's in the World Cup and 3 in the series against the West Indies.
In the World Cup England won 3 but lost 6.
In West Indies it was won 1 and lost 2.
That's consistent but poor. Winning only 1/3 of games in each 'series' can and clearly has become a bit of a habitat. The next England ODI is 10 months away. I cannot for the life of me understand why there were wholesale changes in the squads for the West Indies, leaving out Malan among others
I realise the England management may have thought the West Indies was a opportunity to put somebody untried in at the deep end to see how they do. It hasn't worked apart from not letting Atkinson bowl.
To be fair as the next England ODI is so far away surely you would use next season to then select from who was in form and not infirmed.
I love live sport but have somewhat fallen out of love with international cricket. However in a moment of optimism for next year I bought tickets for the Headingley May T20 v Pakistan and the Headingley Sept 19th ODI v Ausralia to bookend what really, *I hope is Yorkshire's promotion Year and a great year's cricket.
I remember (poorly) the Marx Brother's film where they are talking about signing the 'Sanity Clause' on either a contract or peace treaty and queried one with " Don't you believe in the Sanity Clause?"
* "Of course, I believe in Santa Clause"
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Post by davemorton on Dec 11, 2023 13:04:25 GMT
1st Test. Oz v Pak from Perth's new stadium starts on Thursday, early morning 2.20 GMT, so final session around 7.20 for those who have paid the fee. Midwinter in England has me dreaming about Perth and its gorgeous Cottesloe beach. Lovely city.
England Test squad to tour India has been announced, and there's a player in it I have never heard of, let alone seen. Otherwise, it's pretty much as expected, and no Woakes, thankfully.
England Test squad: Ben Stokes (capt), Rehan Ahmed, James Anderson, Gus Atkinson, Jonny Bairstow, Shoaib Bashir, Harry Brook, Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ben Foakes, Tom Hartley, Jack Leach, Ollie Pope, Ollie Robinson, Joe Root, Mark Wood.
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