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Post by karma on Nov 24, 2023 7:34:16 GMT
Well, Dave everyone's seat is reserved or, I understand there would be no admittance through the electronic turnstile. That apart I'm the man who is never late (well *hardly ever for anything). Even my daughter repeats my mantra that it's better to be an hour early than 2 minutes late.
Headingley is fairly near to where I live, sometimes I used to walk ( maybe 50-60 brisk minutes) though I have a choice of train (plus 20 minute walk) one of several buses or car. I tend to arrive early to get parked and have a stroll, coffee , read of the paper , maybe a 'Codeword' or two, catch up with cricket forum and then go into the ground at or shortly after the opening. Maybe do a circuit or two of the ground ( exactly 1k circumference) grab another coffee find my seat(always the same one) settle down, put my coat or sweater over seat , take in the atmosphere , say hello to everyone ,catch up ,sit and look up cricket scores/results on my phone and re-acquaint myself with opposition team from my Playfair Cricket Annual . Sometimes but not always I'll go and buy a scorecard, making my usual 'joke' "have you got any with the result on?" maybe making an additional donation since I stopped doing their lottery. All these things take time and are part of my routine to get ready. Interlopers would have to be in pretty early to get my seat ( they'd still be in the pub until late)
* I once arrived to do a Powerpoint presentation to a very important client's board of directors, it took much longer to get through tiers of security and I arrived just in time to set up and commence. However I was a little flustered due to lateness and my mind wasn't quite as focused as it should be . I won't say I 'winged it' and but I gradually grew into the presentation. However I never cut is so fine again .
Anyway sorry to hear of your experience, never happened to me (apart from once in the theatre where someone was sat in my numbered seat but they should have been in the Upper Circle not Circle - kicking shins or threats not needed)
I must admit I'm impressed with your other post too including plans you've made following the fixture publication for matches , holidays and travels .I enjoy doing similar sometimes and planning can be a very satisfying pleasure when it all comes together.
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Post by tbsteve on Nov 24, 2023 12:20:27 GMT
I don't want to presume anything but have a feeling that most members if this forum prefer domestic cricket in the following order: County Cricket One-Day-Cup T20 Well, those are my my preference including the T20. Many people don't like it at all. I live pretty near Headingley so within my full senior membership for the extra cost it represent pretty good value to me to see live sport. So I'll tolerate the hype, the drinking culture, the groups coming after work (and not watching) and the children - the latter are the next generation's members and rather they come to watch cricket than be lured to the Dark Side in August with that other 'game'. The more children the merrier Anyway, when looking at the fixture list today on Yorkshire's website, I came across, to me, a well-hidden mention of the Roses T20 game at Headingley, June 20th. Although I've paid for admittance within my membership I still have to separately apply for a specific numbered seat (for this T20 only) or I assume you are not admitted. Mention was made that you can now apply for a specific seat by logging on to your account, clicking on a button next to T20 tickets and give details. Try as I might for ages I just couldn't find the button or get the system to work. Luddite. So I e-mailed the club on one of their enquiry forms and within ten minutes they e-mailed me back confirming my choice of seat in the NE Upper stand. Great service from the ticket office.While I think about the Roses game, we all know that Yorkshire day is 1st August and when we bask in the knowledge that Yorkshire is the best county, with great sporting teams, fabulous countryside and generous people with a forthright approach but lovely sense of humour. And then we have Lancashire. I understand that next Monday, 27th November, is Lancashire day, another great county, some lovely people and strong sporting traditions . Although they'll never be Yorkshire I still wish them well. Not sure what others would wish them, apart from runner's up when we win the Div1 Championship in a couple of years? Well it may not surprise you to learn that my preference is different: CC T20 Hundred One day cup Though when I was younger it would have been Sunday League / C&G or B&H / CC. Strangely I saw quite a lot of 2XI at Castleford, Rotherham, Barnsley and those were special days with my Grandad. The fixture at Cas often fell on my birthday so was a day off school
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Post by karma on Nov 24, 2023 13:03:35 GMT
You are absolutely right tbsteve, it comes as no surprise.I like all the cricket formats ,some more than others, some just tollerably.
Used to love the Sunday, John Player League a complete game on a Sunday afternoon and travelling to different venues, not just Yorkshire.
You mentioned a different game, "Well Luke, I see you have been lured to the Dark Side, try not to mention it too much". I am on record as saying "I've nothing against H*n*r*d supporters, wish you well and good weather to enjoy", On the other hand "wish it had not been invented and the marketing monies used to promote actual cricket".No point fighting old battles again though.
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Post by tbsteve on Nov 24, 2023 14:57:37 GMT
I struggle to remember the name of the Sunday League when I first started watching (1998). It seemed to change every year in those days. But having been given free tickets whilst attending the 98 test at Headingly v South Africa, we became members the following year. Having said that, baring Lehmann's huge score at Scarbados, the games blur into one. I do remember Lehmann and Wood putting on a lot v Lancs in the CC though and that is probably one of my favourite days of live cricket, along with Yorks winning in the final at Lords. Dark side or not, the Hundred is entertaining, though I just enjoy it for what it is. But I guess, now that the days have passed You don't understand . I'm not keen on the expansion to ten teams as the whole point was to concentrate the talent. I wouldn't be surprise if expanding the Hundred either leads to its demise, or else sees it merge into the T20. There won't be many players left for anything else!
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Post by tbsteve on Nov 24, 2023 15:03:13 GMT
Now you've got me thinking - why not cut out London Spirit and Birmingham Phoenix and reduce to 6 teams played over 2 weeks? London and the Midlands only really need one team each
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Post by karma on Nov 24, 2023 17:47:05 GMT
Well that would be an improvement, to reduce the number of teams and play over a more concentrated period so that it's less disruptive to cricket. I did attend 6 games (3 each ladies and gents) in the first season. My problem was getting behind any team in the hundred.
If I can use football analogies it might explain one of the reasons the Hundred leaves me cold. First of all I come from York and as a lad I attended all York cities home games, reserves too and many away ones as well. It was my team, I knew all the players celebrated when they did well suffered when they didn't .Still supporting 65 years later, season ticket holder even though I now live 30 odd miles away in West Yorkshire. Was at York last Tuesday night when they beat Oxford City,they're playing away (down south) tomorrow so I'll go to watch live footy local to me either Guiseley, Bradford Park Avenue or Farsley .So it's Farsley v Hereford ( I'll take my radio and also listen intermittently to York while watching Farsley. It's a family club , I know who the players are and many of the other supporters too, a Hartlepool supporter will sit next to me and talk all through the game. Live sport with a team with roots I can get behind for a couple of hours. Shouting cheering on and with which I can and do identify.
When I attended a hundred game some people shouted 'Come on Yorkshire', I tried to explain what the teams were , people just looked blank at me . So it's a made-up name for a made-up team that represents not a town or a county ( counties) but money or circus. I can appreciate a good shot or good bowling but it doesn't get me punching the air or shouting or feeling proud or identifying with the team. No passion. I tried to get into the Hundred before making my mind up that it wasn't for me.
I haven't listed all the many negative things the Hundred has done to cricket including downgrading the One-Day-Cup, stealing my summer, stealing Yorkshire players and stealing Headingley stadium. It's enough that to me it has no heart.
But others enjoy it and I have no criticism of that. I think eventually it will be morphed into an enhanced T20 but in the meantime hope you enjoy it and have good August weather too.
I suppose my wife best describes the difficulty in getting behind both cricket and the hundred by her favourite saying that, " You can't ride two horses with one arse"
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Post by newby on Nov 24, 2023 18:39:22 GMT
They aren't just talking about increasing it to 10 teams though are they. The talk is of another layer beneath with Promotion and relegation.
That may well fail at the first time of asking, mainly because the women's teams, riding on the coat tails of the men's game are opposed to it.
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Post by karma on Nov 24, 2023 19:19:18 GMT
I understand at last Tuesday's meeting , which included representatives from the counties, that at least 3 different options for expanding the Hundred were discussed. It also included bringing in "private equity'.
I know that one technique for getting proposals agreed upon is, to have the one the ECB has already decided upon plus a couple and of others that are 'off the wall' and so outlandish that the group votes for the 'least onerous' choice put forward by the ECB.
Although I wish the hundred had not been born, it currently is a 'competition' without a penalty for failure ie no relegation or promotion and that's poor.
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Post by tbsteve on Nov 25, 2023 1:02:33 GMT
I guess I see it more like exhibition matches. I once enjoyed watching Australia v Rest of World at Sydney, and have vague memories of a Gough(?) Benefit match at Don Valley with an invited XI or two. The lack of promotion/relegation isn't a worry for me. Its a bit of summer fun, and maybe should viewed through the lens of a cricket festival. But it goes on too long, there should be 2 mens games per day. A maximum of 2 week window would be ideal, perhaps at the startnof summer with spectators encouraged to then go watch real counties (give some free tickets to encourage them back to Headingly!) I guess the lyrical reference was too obscure for you karma
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Post by karma on Nov 25, 2023 12:11:09 GMT
Can't argue with what you're setting out tbsteve, reference to 'lack of relegation' to me says it's not really a competition, more of a series of exhibition matches . On that basis I can accept the concept but I still have trouble with the collateral damage to my cricket season. However and with the prospect of repeating myself, I've nothing against any supporters of the hundred, wish them good games in good weather .
I must admit I was in relation to lyrics,sometimes get them sometime miss them but in any event I oftensometimes end up laughing at my own obtuse ones. Often I respond:
"Not quite clear the thing you just spoke Was that a parable or a very subtle joke?"
Anyway , got to get ready for footy at Farsley soon. I bought my ticket on-line last week .I do this because if I wait for the day and it's really bad weather |I might not go. Having a ticket means that regardless of weather I'm still going to get off my bottom and go to the game. And enjoy live sport. Nice chips too.
Being a Luddite I don't trust being able to find my ticket on my phone so I print a paper version. But where did I put it?
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Post by newby on Nov 26, 2023 17:38:31 GMT
Good news I think that Joe Root has been dropped/pulled out of the IPL. I think it was an attempt by him to get back into the England T20 team ahead of the upcoming T20 WC. I really can't see any way that is going to happen so hopefully he can now accept the decision.
I don't want to go counting chickens or anything but he should be available for quite a decent number of appearances for Yorkshire early season, hopefully.
Harry Brook has also been released by his IPL team, I suspect one of the other outfits will take a chance on him when the mini auction comes up.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Nov 27, 2023 7:50:59 GMT
I think Brook may be able to make more sensible decisions on his availability for overseas T20 stuff with the lucrative 3 year central contract in his back pocket now. Root too has a contract with England and perhaps there is now a signal that those with central contracts can be more selective about where and when they play when its not for England. Stokes too has pulled out the IPL.
But lets be honest, the 3 of them hardly set the tournament alight last year, bar one Brook ton, and in some cases they spent most of the month sat in a dugout learning from their team mates and coaches. Doing that for a second year is not going to teach you much more - far better to come back to England and play some county games
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Post by davemorton on Nov 27, 2023 14:57:40 GMT
Wishful thinking, SLA. I think "their" next move will be to set up (or extend) franchises for 50-over and First Class cricket, thus relegating County Cricket to level 3. Give them 5 years.
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Post by karma on Dec 1, 2023 8:01:37 GMT
SECOND 11 FIXTURES NOW OUT - I hope I'm wrong (again) but 25th and 26th April there seem to be 2 x 4 day games starting at Headingley ie 2nds then 1sts .It'll be me
Unless Dr Who has been at work with the space time continium
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Post by davemorton on Dec 1, 2023 8:47:55 GMT
Where are they then? Not on YCCC website, that I can see.
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