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Post by newby on Sept 17, 2024 17:58:00 GMT
Saqib Mahmood has now been added to the England squad, I'll be interested to see how many overs they can get out of him, if he is selected.
Not sure about Hull, a quad injury I think I saw in one report, he's a big unit with lots of moving parts.
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Post by davemorton on Sept 17, 2024 18:15:53 GMT
Also very young. They may have gone a bit early with Josh Hull. I remember he made a couple of fielding errors at Scarborough, right in front of us in the Trafalgar Square seats, before he was put on to bowl. He got more sympathy than derision, but I don't think that works at International level, somehow!
I hope Saqib makes it, second time around, as it were. This coaching set up seems to be picking winners every time, though they have dumped Tom Hartley pretty abruptly. They've gone back to Jack Leach (for Pakistan), and brought in young Jacob Bethell who, I suppose is a batsman who can bowl SLA. You can see why he is so highly rated. Michael Vaughan says that Bethell's dad played for Sheffield Collegiate.
Exciting times, actually, with Harry England captain almost before he's started playing.
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Post by donnylad on Sept 17, 2024 18:22:43 GMT
Hull injury? Being coached by England ... how many times have we seen this happens?
Bethell's SLA was much to the Aussie's liking.
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Post by newby on Sept 17, 2024 19:22:52 GMT
Not sure they get it right every time, there's an article on the BBC website about George Scrimshaw and his nightmare ODI debut, Hartley's another miscalculation as already mentioned.
Not convinced by any of the part time spin options in the current squad. Adil Rashid will get them through to the Champions Trophy but surely they don't expect him to make the next World Cup in 2027.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 19, 2024 6:49:36 GMT
why wont Adil make it to 2027? He has surely rested his body well enough between England commitments.....
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Post by newby on Sept 19, 2024 7:10:10 GMT
He might get away with it if it was T20 or the 100, but not over the longer format where I think he is playing on borrowed time already.
This series of 5 games in 11 days will be a tough test for him, given how little he plays.
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Post by newby on Sept 22, 2024 7:23:11 GMT
Good crowd and decent weather at Headingley for the 2nd of the 50 Over series against Australia. It was a difficult pitch by all accounts and was building up to be what could have been a low scoring thriller after Australia made only 270.
Unfortunately England were fresh out of hero's with the bat and subsided very early on with just a weak pulse provided by the tail enders keeping the game going into the late afternoon.
If you were looking for a man of the match you would have to discard about 6 players before coming to an English one.
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Post by newby on Sept 24, 2024 9:44:17 GMT
Third game today at Chester-le-street, start time is 12:30. They might be lucky with the weather and at least get the game going on time though it might be a bit nippy for the spectators.
If England continue to play T20 cricket then they might lose the series today with 2 games still to go.
Interesting to read that Joe Root is back in the mix to regain his place in the ODI team for the Champions trophy. He along with Dawid Malan, YJB and a couple of others that England have pushed out the door might have made a decent contest of this series.
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Post by tykemania on Sept 24, 2024 10:42:38 GMT
Nothing wrong with trying some younger players in a series of limited meaning, as long as you are prepared to pivot back to your A team at the appropriate juncture. And Root and Bairstow have to be in England's strongest 50 over side.
Root should need no clarification. Bairstow possibly; I do, sort of, understand why the selectors wanted to look at Smith this Summer and it has paid off well enough - Jonny's Test form had not been good over the winter. But in the 50 over game specifically, he is still one of the top three openers in the world.
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Post by donnylad on Sept 24, 2024 18:08:15 GMT
Perhaps Duckett and Salt will eventually realise that Starc is not a dross T20 trundler and stop trying too hard too soon.
Jacks and Brook have played sensibly and hit the big shots when appropriate. Suddenly we need 6 an over with 6 wickets and 18 overs left.
Do not mess this up lads!!
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Post by newby on Sept 24, 2024 21:43:02 GMT
Excellent innings from Harry Brook making his first ODI century helped to carry England to their first win of the series. They were well ahead of DLS when the rain finally arrived.
Zampa was a big loss for Australia and they looked like they didn't know what to do in the middle overs without him.
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Post by davemorton on Sept 24, 2024 23:02:58 GMT
Once again I was caught out by this game. I only found it was on when I got in my car, and TMS was on.
I watched the second half because Harry was batting, and what a player! What an innings! Jacks did well too. I think the two of them were on the same U19 team in the NZ World Cup. Good to see the underrated Livingstone getting a chance up the order, and taking it.
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Post by slowleftarmer on Sept 25, 2024 7:10:22 GMT
Yes, there is a hope (a faint one perhaps) that some of our players actually learn from this series, the big learning point is that 50 over cricket is more than twice as long as 20 over cricket so you can play yourself in, you can nudge and nurdle and you dont need to try and hit every ball for 6.
It also shows which players can adapt to that mentality. I dont think Salt can, he is a pure out and out T20 player. Duckett should be able to as he also plays longer format test cricket. But the Aussies are largely test players with a couple of omissions like Khawaja whereas England are largely a T20 team. I think you can see that players with longer format red ball experience are more suited to adjust to 50 over cricket (and they regularly bat for 25 plus overs in an innings) whereas a team of T20 specialists never do so and therefore have no idea how to play an innings in a 50 over game.
Well batted Harry lad too
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Post by newby on Sept 25, 2024 9:08:15 GMT
I hate to pile onto Salt but he looks most like a fish out of water in the 50 over format. His record isn't that bad to be honest with 1 century and 3 x 50's in his 22 ODI appearances. I just think he's having a problem adjusting, perhaps he feels he's just keeping the seat warm for Jos Buttler or he's looking for an IPL gig.
I hate to recommend another Surrey player but perhaps Dom Sibley would be suited to the steady Eddie opener role, or Keaton Jennings perhaps.
50 over cricket seems to have changed, it's slower and seems longer than in the old Jason Roy/Alex Hales days when the idea was to get to 400 runs. The top bowlers seem to have got their act together.
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Post by tykemania on Sept 25, 2024 11:06:06 GMT
In the last 2-3 years it has changed back in the direction of the bowlers primarily because some of the bigger sides have stopped selecting "white ball specialists" and gone back to picking their best Test match bowlers. Its one thing melting 450 off Big Billy Stanlake and his mates, quite another when faced with Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins...
I don't think Salt is a bad player per se, I just don't think he has worked out his game for those circumstances. I also wonder how secure he feels in his place - whether he is bought into the idea that he is an automatic pick or perhaps thinks that he is keeping a space warm for Jonny, Zak Crawley or whomever.
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